A call for Left Unity (Socialist Workers' Front)

[Crust]

I never mentioned with a single word that you guys were somehow filthy SJWs. Doesn't your alliance define itself as red, or to be more accurate, as communist? Now if that's the case, you shouldn't get offended by the terrible term "SJW". Come on, comrades! You know that you are superior to those pitilul individuals.

 

Ah sorry, I thought Ansom was telling the truth there, don't really know your relationship. I don't find the term SJW offensive, nor the term cultural marxist or any other term usually used as derogatory terms by nazis/white supremacists/shitheads but I still recognize that others try to use it as a term to get a rile out of other people.

[Vassili Dovgan]

You know... I'd really hate being associated with SJWs, just because I'm left. I think the best way to prevent this is to keep a good, healthy distance to them. It's also helpful to point out that they're wasting their precious time with useless nonsense, from time to time.

 

 

Spread the message!  #LeftistsAgainstSJWs

[Abu Haddad]

Socialism is a farce. Whereby the people suffer at the benefit of the imperial system

LONG LIVE KARL MARX

LONG BURN SOCIALISM

[Vassili Dovgan]

Socialism is a farce. Whereby the people suffer at the benefit of the imperial system

LONG LIVE KARL MARX

LONG BURN SOCIALISM

I think this is the thread you're looking for...

Edited January 3, 2016 by Vassili Dovgan

[Jack Mcfloyd]

I think this is the thread you're looking for...

[Vassili Dovgan]

[Myspace]

You know... I'd really hate being associated with SJWs, just because I'm left. I think the best way to prevent this is to keep a good, healthy distance to them. It's also helpful to point out that they're wasting their precious time with useless nonsense, from time to time.

 

 

Spread the message!  #LeftistsAgainstSJWs

lolwut

 

I mean, care to expand? Believe it or not, Myspace is a strongly leftist nation, and we've been frequently called SJWs. Why would you want to distance yourself from liberatory movements based in oppressed communities? 

[Vassili Dovgan]

lolwut

 

I mean, care to expand? Believe it or not, Myspace is a strongly leftist nation, and we've been frequently called SJWs. Why would you want to distance yourself from liberatory movements based in oppressed communities? 

 

Because they're doing more bad than good. They don't "fight" for actual social justice, they are just language policing people.

I've never seen any of them caring about unemployment, homelessness, lack of education, health care or other important topics of actual "social justice".

 

 

All we hear from them is "Aaaaww Boohoo! Women and minorities are oppressed!"

 

Well yes, that's the case. You cannot deny that they are (at least in the US). But the SJWs aren't doing anything to really solve this problem. Whining on TV and social media and getting a couple of people fired doesn't change anything.

 

On the contrary: This kind of behaviour makes a laughing stock out of the rest of the leftist community.

 

Wanna hear more?

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Typo

Edited January 8, 2016 by Vassili Dovgan

[Pyer Toh]

Because they're doing more bad than good. They don't "fight" for actual social justice, they are just language policing people.

I've never seen any of them caring about unemployment, homelessness, lack of education, health care or other important topics of actual "social justice".

 

 

All we hear from them is "Aaaaww Boohoo! Women and minorities are oppressed!"

 

Well yes, that's the case. You cannot deny that they are (at least in the US). But the SJWs aren't doing anything to really solve this problem. Whining on TV and social media and getting a couple of people fired doesn't change anything.

 

On the contrary: This kind of behaviour makes a laughing stock out of the rest of the leftist community.

 

Wanna hear more?

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Typo

^ this.

[Pyer Toh]

You can't claim to be in favor of social justice and human rights when you have Stalin in advertisements. That makes about as much sense as having Hitler in your ads .

 

 

Hey didn't you know? Genocide and Imperialism are excusable as long as the government has centre-left economic policies. #justtankiethings

What on earth do you know about Stalin other than what you've been taught by the very system that has EVERY motive to vilify communism and Stalin? If you get to idolize your slave-owning founding fathers, then we get to have Stalin.

[Myspace]

Because they're doing more bad than good. They don't "fight" for actual social justice, they are just language policing people.

I've never seen any of them caring about unemployment, homelessness, lack of education, health care or other important topics of actual "social justice".

 

 

All we hear from them is "Aaaaww Boohoo! Women and minorities are oppressed!"

 

Well yes, that's the case. You cannot deny that they are (at least in the US). But the SJWs aren't doing anything to really solve this problem. Whining on TV and social media and getting a couple of people fired doesn't change anything.

 

On the contrary: This kind of behaviour makes a laughing stock out of the rest of the leftist community.

 

Wanna hear more?

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Typo

OOC: To be honest, it kind of just sounds like you're not actually an organizer on the front lines. You've allowed the right and reactionaries to define terms for you, which is a seriously uncritical way of approaching the world. When you say "you've never seen..." all that really translates to is "I've never organized with marginalized communities who care about not being crapped on". Please correct me if I'm wrong, and let me know how you organize and with who. 

[Odin]

OOC: To be honest, it kind of just sounds like you're not actually an organizer on the front lines. You've allowed the right and reactionaries to define terms for you, which is a seriously uncritical way of approaching the world. When you say "you've never seen..." all that really translates to is "I've never organized with marginalized communities who care about not being crapped on". Please correct me if I'm wrong, and let me know how you organize and with who. 

 

He never said "organizing things on the frontline". He talked about "caring about unemployment, homelessness, lack of education, health care or other important topics of actual "social justice"."

Being on the frontline is AFA/Antifa stuff. And their members have never proposed any political demands on the streets. They just gather as counter-demonstrators for the fun of violence.

(Example 12. Dezember 2015 Leipzig-Connewitz, Germany: Pic 1, Pic 2)

 

Vassili basically said that the left should concentrate more again on removing "important" deficites like the ones mentioned above, instead everything nowadays is only PC here, PC there. And even if you initially supported that stuff to a certain degree, it went totally out of control, and is for many just nerving, even restrictive, as you can get harshly oppressed/disadvantaged if you voice your opinion about it in the public .

[Jack Mcfloyd]

[Vassili Dovgan]

OOC: To be honest, it kind of just sounds like you're not actually an organizer on the front lines. You've allowed the right and reactionaries to define terms for you, which is a seriously uncritical way of approaching the world. When you say "you've never seen..." all that really translates to is "I've never organized with marginalized communities who care about not being crapped on". Please correct me if I'm wrong, and let me know how you organize and with who. 

Frontlines? Haha this isn't 1920's Germany. If we had a communist party having actual gunfights with other groups, I'd be glad to join them

 

When did I ever let anyone define something for me? That's common sense.

Same with the "never seen". That's a simple observation. They might have some good intentions, but everything we ever get to notice is the result of their work. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't call this impressive.

 

 

What is the usual stuff we hear from them?

 

Safe spaces?    Life is not about feeling comfortable, it's about dealing with your problems. If you get easily offended then you just shouldn't take other people's opinions so seriously.

 

No reverse racism?   Err... What? It doesn't matter what race you are. If you say that another race is inferior to yours and/or should be killed, you are a racist.

 

Female empowerment?   Again: You cannot deny that certain groups, including women, have certain disadvantages in our society. That is an issue that should definately be taken care of. But look out who's doing that! The forces in the centre of the SJW movement are the radical feminists. They might eventually get to the point where women are equal to men, but I guarantee you that they won't stop there. Radical feminists are not about gender equality, they are about female supremacy.

 

 

Overall, the SJW movement has nothing to do with actual social justice. Even if you can force people to obey and to accept your PC language, you still have the actual problems I mentioned before.

Edited January 10, 2016 by Vassili Dovgan

[Vassili Dovgan]

What on earth do you know about Stalin other than what you've been taught by the very system that has EVERY motive to vilify communism and Stalin? If you get to idolize your slave-owning founding fathers, then we get to have Stalin.

 

[Pyer Toh]

Frontlines? Haha this isn't 1920's Germany. If we had a communist party having actual gunfights with other groups, I'd be glad to join them

 

When did I ever let anyone define something for me? That's common sense.

Same with the "never seen". That's a simple observation. They might have some good intentions, but everything we ever get to notice is the result of their work. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't call this impressive.

 

 

What is the usual stuff we hear from them?

 

Safe spaces?    Life is not about feeling comfortable, it's about dealing with your problems. If you get easily offended then you just shouldn't take other people's opinions so seriously.

 

No reverse racism?   Err... What? It doesn't matter what race you are. If you say that another race is inferior to yours and/or should be killed, you are a racist.

 

Female empowerment?   Again: You cannot deny that certain groups, including women, have certain disadvantages in our society. That is an issue that should definately be taken care of. But look out who's doing that! The forces in the centre of the SJW movement are the radical feminists. They might eventually get to the point where women are equal to men, but I guarantee you that they won't stop there. Radical feminists are not about gender equality, they are about female supremacy.

 

 

Overall, the SJW movement has nothing to do with actual social justice. Even if you can force people to obey and to accept your PC language, you still have the actual problems I mentioned before.

 

Let me repeat something important you just said before I say what I need to say.

 

Even if you can force people to obey and to accept your PC language, you still have the actual problems I mentioned before.

 

EXACTLY! Now....

 

The movement I'm a part of is the one that organized the protests that Quentin Tarantino went to. Since that protest, which we call "Rise Up October" we created a new hashtag xP #SidewithQuentin

 

Quentin has done a good job standing his ground, now we need to show him that we have his back.

 

Here is the website for our newspaper.

http://revcom.us/

 

We also have something we call the Five Stops

 

STOP Genocidal Persecution, Mass Incarceration, Police Brutality and Murder of Black and Brown People!

 

STOP The Patriarchal Degradation, Dehumanization, and Subjugation of All Women Everywhere, and All Oppression Based on Gender or Sexual Orientation!

 

STOP Wars of Empire, Armies of Occupation, and Crimes Against Humanity!

 

STOP The Demonization, Criminalization and Deportation of Immigrants and the Militarization of the Border!

 

STOP Capitalism-Imperialism from Destroying Our Planet!

Edited January 10, 2016 by Pyer Toh

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Frontlines? Haha this isn't 1920's Germany. If we had a communist party having actual gunfights with other groups, I'd be glad to join them

 

When did I ever let anyone define something for me? That's common sense.

Same with the "never seen". That's a simple observation. They might have some good intentions, but everything we ever get to notice is the result of their work. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't call this impressive.

 

 

What is the usual stuff we hear from them?

 

Safe spaces?    Life is not about feeling comfortable, it's about dealing with your problems. If you get easily offended then you just shouldn't take other people's opinions so seriously.

 

No reverse racism?   Err... What? It doesn't matter what race you are. If you say that another race is inferior to yours and/or should be killed, you are a racist.

 

Female empowerment?   Again: You cannot deny that certain groups, including women, have certain disadvantages in our society. That is an issue that should definately be taken care of. But look out who's doing that! The forces in the centre of the SJW movement are the radical feminists. They might eventually get to the point where women are equal to men, but I guarantee you that they won't stop there. Radical feminists are not about gender equality, they are about female supremacy.

 

 

Overall, the SJW movement has nothing to do with actual social justice. Even if you can force people to obey and to accept your PC language, you still have the actual problems I mentioned before.

I concur with everything stated here.

 

It is also worth noting that the SJW movement largely concentrates itself around socialist democrats and similar political ideologies.

For the true leftist, these groups are little more than traitors. Marx and Engels have denounced such comprises with the bourgeois system in their Communist Manifesto.

In short, SJWs do not seek to change the bourgeois system, they simply want to give it a nicer and more appealing façade. 

[Pyer Toh]

I concur with everything stated here.

 

It is also worth noting that the SJW movement largely concentrates itself around socialist democrats and similar political ideologies.

For the true leftist, these groups are little more than traitors. Marx and Engels have denounced such comprises with the bourgeois system in their Communist Manifesto.

In short, SJWs do not seek to change the bourgeois system, they simply want to give it a nicer and more appealing façade. 

^ this