Popular Post Buorhann Posted November 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2017 With the lack of any ambition or action going on, what's the idea behind you folks signing treaties? 16 2 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 To protect me from myself. 6 Quote One must imagine Sisyphus happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Epi Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) 98 Edited December 11, 2020 by Epi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheNG Posted November 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) Edited November 30, 2017 by TheNG 15 Quote "They say the secret to success is being at the right place at the right time. But since you never know when the right time is going to be, I figure the trick is to find the right place and just hang around!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <Kastor> He left and my !@#$ nation is !@#$ed up. And the Finance guy refuses to help. He just writes his !@#$ plays. <Kastor> And laughs and shit. <Kastor> And gives out !@#$ huge loans to Arthur James, that !@#$ bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen M II Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 The same thing Mensa did when they were on top signing their treaties. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhuto Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Game is pretty much dead unless IQ is waiting for EZM top tier become semi inactive and then hunt them down........ If that's not the case I have no idea why even people are bothered about treaties 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Buorhann said: With the lack of any ambition or action going on, what's the idea behind you folks signing treaties? >implying we're all calloused, jaded, and tired of the shenanigans of this game and are basically living it out as we would in CURRENT YEAR because RL politics and war is just too much to deal with so we need a safe space away from that madness 1 Quote In paradisum deducant te Angeli; in tuo adventu suscipiant te martyres, et perducant te in civitatem sanctam Ierusalem.Chorus angelorum te suscipiat, et cüm Lazaro quondam paupere æternam habeas requiem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hope Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) >acting like people have ambition these days rt there are a fair amount of people who have ambition, but they have circumstances disallowing them from being dynamic atm... but in regards to EMC or IQ, both have said publicly they wont strike first so idk go bother them Edited November 30, 2017 by Hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dio Brando Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Waiting for KT to declare war. Duh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Micchan Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 10 hours ago, Epimetheus said: To become dynamic or break the game trying After half of day 1 the test server treaty web is already shit like the real server Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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QueenPhoenix Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 We sign them only to vex you. Quote "You must begin by gaining power over yourself; then another; then a group, an order, a world, a species, a group of species; finally, the galaxy itself." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I'm being D Y N A M I C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spaceman Thrax Posted November 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2017 I think your question is kinda a tautology. Hehehe. Honestly though I think it's a question of what's easy. To make weird interesting moves you have to be willing to put effort in, and also kinda insane, because there's no intrinsic reward for doing that usually. Most of the established players and alliances are running out of steam after hammering on each other so constantly, and the people in charge of them just want to chill out rather than put effort into, basically, undermining their own safety/ability to be lazy. It's understandable. I still blame them for it, but it's understandable. I also think people need to do less thinking about the state of the game and less trying to figure out what is making it bad, and more just... doing stuff. Even if it's kinda stupid, just do a thing! It's not so bad, to do things. 13 Quote Slaughter the shits of the world. They poison the air you breathe. ~ William S. Burroughs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) We're living up to humanity's full potential. Rejoice! We are living in the most peaceful times Orbis has ever seen. No more war, only love. Edited November 30, 2017 by Hodor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holton Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 The answer is nothing. Pacifica & Puppets are doing nothing. Everyone else is waiting on them to do something because the stats are skewed enough to scare basically everyone into paralysis. Unfortunately, Pacifica & Puppets will only continue growing and their blanket nation count superiority will eventually turn into tier superiority. But forward thinking is hard. 2 1 Quote Superbia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Thrax Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 25 minutes ago, Zeebrus said: Imagine a world where If you didn’t like a person, alliance or action, you could declare war on said person or alliance, or if you’re too spooked to go for it, you could pay someone like @Ripper to do it for you. People often yell and complain about how there’s no action, it’s all politics and treaties. If you ignore the treaties and attack people regardless, you’d probably be countered by the alliance’s treaties. Good! You get your action, you get the war, the excitement, you don’t have to complain about treaties impeding your gameplay anymore, and you can make your statement clear that you don’t like them or what they’re doing. The Declare War button was always there. Just don’t forget that. Hahahahahaahaha This is the best because it's incredibly sensible but it's also coming from Zeebrus. She literally writes fanfiction about other players having mountain asses, and yet still has more sense than you. Get it together, people in this game. 5 Quote Slaughter the shits of the world. They poison the air you breathe. ~ William S. Burroughs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 15 hours ago, Kastor said: The same thing Mensa did when they were on top signing their treaties. You mean after we also instigated wars and played the antagonist role? Yeah, you're clearly doing that. Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James XVI Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 21 minutes ago, Buorhann said: You mean after we also instigated wars and played the antagonist role? Yeah, you're clearly doing that. You're implying Kastor isn't an antagonistic person? o.O 1 Quote THE Definitive James: KastorCultist, Co-leading Roz Wei Empyrea The Wei, former TGH warrior, Assassin, and a few more. Player of this game for more time than I want to think about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Buorhann Posted November 30, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2017 Here's my point, and I'm glad Kastor ignorantly pointed out Mensa's own signing of treaties in the past (Like he normally does when he thinks he's being witty). Using ourselves as an example, we not only looked at our treaties as being "friendly and protective", we also looked at them as tools to further our agenda. Our goal was to press war to further our political stance, which we arguably succeeded with greatly. I mean, that's just Dio's way. However, we wanted to make sure that those we treatied with, we could work well with. Which, we did. However, we also had friends that we weren't treatied with. Like, if Mensa was attacked, you knew Guardian and Syndicate would step up for us as we held official treaties with them. But for a while, we didn't have treaties with TKR, BK, and quite a few other alliances that would also have stepped up too if necessary in the past. There's a few exceptions, I'm well aware of some alliances grumbling about how aggressive Mensa was and that they didn't want to get involved, etc. I could go into all those details in another story telling post. I'm trying to remember who it was, but I think it was Ogaden in his push to make everybody treaty-less that stated you didn't need treaties in order to assist other alliances. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not the anti-treaty Arrgh kind of guy here. I'm the type of guy that wants you to use your treaties, or if you're not - then don't sign. It's too peaceful nowadays to even worry about conflict, so what's the point? Right now what I'm seeing is people consolidating or signing more treaties and just singing Kumbaya around a campire. Y'all are damn boring with that. We have IQ here, which NPO pushed the last two major wars granted (Or initiated, rather). And although they've made some hypocritical statements around consolidation and action, etc, they're just sitting on their ass and all the moves they've made was very predictable. I give them a small pass though, because like I stated, NPO initiated the last two major wars. If the last war didn't kick off like it did, Mensa definitely would've kicked it off (By us attacking VE or whatever trendy thing they call themselves now). Then we have EMC, who clearly has a big reason to initiate a major war, but... what's going on? I'm no longer involved with behind the scenes talks anymore, but if I was - a major war would've happened like last month. And oh man, don't me started on how tangled some political mess happened because of some certain treaty ties. Kind of embarrassing. If you don't know what I'm talking about, good. There was also a lack of reaction to a recent action that was taken place. (Being vague on purpose because I'd like you guys to figure this out) We also have some outliers here, like Nuclear Bloc. They've been around how long now? The only relevance they really did was when Alpha and Fark blitzed on Mensa during a major war, or when Alpha/Syndicate/TEst conflict was going on (Take note I keep referring to Alpha and not much of the others). Other than that, people take their threats and protections seriously, which I don't understand why. Nuclear Bloc is literally the definition of how terrible this game can get. Lots of hot air, little to no action. Oh wait, I remember, Fark went out of their way to stomp on some nobody alliance that managed to ruffle people's feathers from their far right shenanigans of dumbassery. Whatever. Then we have Syndicate and UPN who made some big changes and... nothing. They're basically going the same route as SK here. Some big name alliances being reduced to irrelevancy. Disband and merge with another upcoming alliance or something guys, or put people in charge that wants to breath life into your alliances. One more point, which I could rant on and on about this shit, we have people attacking KT for not starting a war. What the hell, why are you guys not starting a war? If you're not going to start up a war, then don't slam into KT for that. Or better yet, go fight KT and you'll get your war and they'll get theirs too! Like ever since the last major war we've had in this game, with TEst/Mensa disbanding, Syndicate going treaty-less, and other moves happening - we have a bunch of boring ass leaders in the game. Lose some pixels guys, that's what keeps things interesting around here. If I was to start a new alliance, I wouldn't even bother with signing treaties or protections. There's nothing to fear or worry about. There's no antagonist in the game. I'm wondering if some of you are just signing treaties or consolidating just to have something to post here. 32 minutes ago, James XVI said: You're implying Kastor isn't an antagonistic person? o.O He use to be. He's just dumb now. 11 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holton Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 At the end of the day, it's a self-perpetuating cycle. People who we consider fun, exciting alliances run out of things to do and they get bored and go inactive. Boring leaders come in, the people content with growing pixels forever and think buying the next city is the most fun thing in the game, and they end up reinforcing the boring atmosphere. This stifles the exciting people from moving up in power because they don't want to invest time in a boring game. Even when someone gets into power that wants to do new things, they can't because no one else wants to. It's why MMO's release expansions. It's why the game needs to be reset every couple of years. 1 Quote Superbia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starbuck Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) As someone who is protected by Fark, I can say with certainty that you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to Nuke Bloc. I mean it seems like you're just bashing people for not initiating wars. Which is fine, I agree people need to be initiating wars. But you can't just do it willy nilly without a plan. As for KT, they can't afford to just go around initiating wars if they want to stay around because they'll just be dogpiled into submission or disbandment. Same with every other alliance that tries to initiate anything. Dogpiles upon dogpiles and then OWF shitposts is all you have to look forward to if you initiate anything nowadays. That is, unless you're IQ or EMC. But as you mentioned, they aren't doing shit except consolidating. EMC just complains about how big IQ is getting and cowers in fear, and IQ can't do shit right now because they're clearly not prepared. To put a little plug in for Stratagem here, we strongly believe in initiating wars or at least instigating people. People call us out for our "pointless" drama but the reality is, a mostly irrelevant micro is the only one actually causing any drama. We were two days old and we tried causing some shit. Same with the other micros. We want things to happen and we're trying. But at the end of the day we can't do much. SGM posted 1 thread causing drama and people actually were mad that we were trying to cause drama. The very same people who say how boring this game is were telling us how stupid it was to cause drama in public. There's the real problem. Edited November 30, 2017 by Starbuck 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 I am 100% sure I've had more involvement with Fark/Nuclear Bloc than you, Starbuck. Goodluck with Strategem though. Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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