Dear TKR- A Hogwarts message

[Tywin Lannister]

9 minutes ago, Tormund Giantsbane said:

Surely a former test member can attest to TKR's level of patience ? We aren't rash people after all who attack out of sheer boredom

 

Just noticed the edit. You wait for them to fight for your ally and then hit? Interesting!  

[kosmokenny]

8 minutes ago, Tywin Lannister said:

Hahahahah! I do like that. Is TKR planning on bringing the entire game to roll Hogwarts too or was that special to TEst? <3 

Woah now, Nuke Bloc didnt play that, we fought you guys fair and square right before that.

[Johnny Costello]

Quick everyone apply to Hogwarts ?

[Tywin Lannister]

Just now, kosmokenny said:

Woah now, Nuke Bloc didnt play that, we fought you guys fair and square right before that.

I think that conflict was limited to Arrgh mainly. I don't remember fighting with you guys personally but I think a few in TEst did. Ended up being very costly for those who did though - perhaps a lesson TKR has learnt from heh. 

[Prefonteen]

1 minute ago, Johnny Costello said:

Quick everyone apply to Hogwarts ?

I told abbas he could finaly apply but he declined.

[Dubayoo]

3 hours ago, Partisan said:

Though their backroom movements have been quite visible due to leaks, they have thus far dodged and deflected requests for clarification while their member nations spiked their military.  The Knights Radiant's interference for their own grudges and ambitions in what was supposed to be a secluded (and fun for all) affair presents a strong contrast with their preachings for isolated small scale wars and dynamic politics.

TKR is not alone in this. Their allies, ranging from Guardian to Rose and the Commonwealth have similarly begun flexing in preparation.

The bottomline is simple: Hogwarts with its handful of nations does not posess the punching power to fight off a horde of 200/300/400 nations. Mathematically impossible, the situation presented is a papers please v2 with a flimsier CB, a more unfortunate timing and a smaller, historically less beligerent defendant.

 

[Charles Bolivar]

16 minutes ago, Tywin Lannister said:

Just noticed the edit. You wait for them to fight for your ally and then hit? Interesting!  

You gotta try harder than that if you want to put words in my mouth. 

Try a thesaurus perhaps ?

[Abbas Mehdi]

14 minutes ago, Partisan said:

I told abbas he could finaly apply but he declined.

I haven't declined it, my interview is still ongoing.

[Tywin Lannister]

Just now, Tormund Giantsbane said:

You gotta try harder than that if you want to put words in my mouth. 

Try a thesaurus perhaps ?

It's a question though. It's very different from putting words in mouth. Putting words in mouth would be, "You waited for them to fight for your ally and then wanted to hit haha" without any question mark following. This is a question you can simply say no to if you wanted and honestly could!   

[Lordship]

Hey Partisan.

For quite a while now you have been actively working to undermine us. From PR campaigns in the backchannels to plans to spark a global war.

You plotted behind the scenes to attempt to spark a global war between the two sides by having NK, an ally of ours, along with you, Hogwarts, protect Arrgh. You know full well that we wouldn’t be able to retaliate against NK and that them protecting Arrgh along with you would drive a wedge between us and them. You specifically harbored Arrgh nations in your alliance while they were able to build up their military and then come out of Hogwarts to hit primarily our side.

 

https://imgur.com/a/lsfQJ

 

You tried to get other people involved (for example, KT) in your scheme. Your plot didn’t just involve rolling UPN, of course. Given that the result would be global war, you wanted to also roll SK or even Acadia for potentially defending UPN. It doesn’t surprise me at all that some alliances might be pissed and concerned at the fact that you are calling people out for being “worthless parasites”. If you’d be willing to infringe on their sovereignty because you judge them as if you are some sort of god and can do what you please, don’t be surprised when others start to worry about how you’d justify hitting them. You may try to exert your clout on the game and it’s politics but don’t be surprised when people see you for what you are and defend themselves accordingly.

Every week it seemed there was a new rumor. A rumor mill you gleefully played your part in and helped create by posting “ominous” OWF posts and vague messages in multiple alliances channels. https://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?/topic/20973-a-hogwarts-courtesy-warning-you-know-who-you-are/&page=1

Is Hogwarts going to attack UPN? Are they going to attack us? Every week there was something new you were doing. Why are they sheltering Arrgh? Never once during any of this did you ever reach out to us. All we got were vaguely threatening messages and more Arrgh hits (They didn’t even all leave at once so you can’t argue that you were caught unaware). You can work to nitpick these points as you no doubt will try. But the reality is you spun your web, plotted to undermine us and got caught. Now here we are.

 

To address your specific post

“The designed plan would see us employ arrgh ghosts to strike UPN and dare any comers to fight us.”

Here you fail to mention how you tried to get others on board, namely NK and KT, knowing full well it would put us in a very awkward position and either make it look like we are divided or that we are not respecting NK’s protection of Arrgh. Given that NK is a TKR ally it would also potentially drive a wedge between TKR and it’s other allies because we wouldn’t be able to help in a situation against NK.

 

“The notion of the plan was indifferent in nature: It was a strike for the sake of fun. Entertainment for all. But also one where both sides were placed in a position where they had to think, and where rough decisions had to be made. We figured, that this would spur drama and political activity. “

Except it is actually not indifferent, and is rather cold and calculating in nature, despite your rhetoric that it is. You have been talking about creating an “awakening” in the politics and using this as a means to achieve that goal simply fits your MO.

 

“Unfortunately, elements of the plan were leaked prematurely by select parties, and so we decided to shut the effort down. The window of opportunity had closed, and Hogwarts returned to its standard operations. The world continued spinning. Real life sprung on me and I delegated responsibilities to the alliance in my absence. “

That’s not how it works bud. You nearly set off an explosive. The mens rea was very much there and you cannot simply use suddenly getting busy in real life as an excuse to wipe yourself clean from wrongdoing.

 

“This situation persisted until recently our ally, Sparta, decided to strike another ally (GOB) out of boredom. Though rough choice, we opted to honor our agreement and defend our ally, who happened to be an ally of TKR as well.”

Yes, the very unfortunate situation presented itself to you and you were forced to choose between two shitty hands. I am not sure why you mention Grumpy being an ally of TKR in this sentence, seems very out of place considering you didn’t communicate with us throughout the entire process and even played into some misconceptions of a possible hit on TKR proper by sending me menacing messages and music videos. Again, fits your MO.

 

"This brings us to now. Hogwarts has finished its war with Sparta but finds itself occupied with picking up the pieces in the aftermath of what defacto be called an intra-ally war. The Knights Radiant has evidently identified a state of vulnerability in what I can only imagine they view as a rival and/or threat, and has opted to move accordingly. Piggybacking on injuries sustained during a war fought to defend their own ally, they have engaged in the typical diplomatic offensive which precedes military action - action which has been confirmed at this point by various sources-."

Well I think anybody would be threatened by your intentionally misleading behavior, considering all of the intel which was confirmed by Hidude and some other Arrgh guys right before and during the Grumpy-Sparta war. Why would TKR see you as a rival? Up until we received confirmation of your schemes, we had no real issues with you, certainly none to warrant an aggressive action or to build military. Don’t flatter yourself. We would fight you even if you were fresh out of the shower once we ran into the very incriminating intel.

 

"Though their backroom movements have been quite visible due to leaks, they have thus far dodged and deflected requests for clarification while their member nations spiked their military.  The Knights Radiant's interference for their own grudges and ambitions in what was supposed to be a secluded (and fun for all) affair presents a strong contrast with their preachings for isolated small scale wars and dynamic politics."

Why on earth would I give you any info if we were planning to mount an offensive? I mean you’re just pulling things out of nowhere now. Exactly what grudge? Exactly what ambition? Is it so wrong to support one’s allies in their attempt to defend themselves from your plots to not only infringe upon their sovereignty but also attempt to put them at odds with not only each other but the other side of the web as well? That is very hypocritical of you to say, considering you literally planned for the scheme to go global.

   

"The bottomline is simple: Hogwarts with its handful of nations does not posess the punching power to fight off a horde of 200/300/400 nations. Mathematically impossible, the situation presented is a papers please v2 with a flimsier CB, a more unfortunate timing and a smaller, historically less beligerent defendant."

Of course you don’t, which is why you were trying to garner support for your schemes and ran off when we decided to put an end to it. Apples and Pears. The context is different and so is the CB. Which, I might add, is very much waterproof.

Edited October 19, 2017 by Lordship
oops

[Tywin Lannister]

30 minutes ago, Lordship said:

Hey Partisan.

bla bla bla

Of course you don’t, which is why you were trying to garner support for your schemes and ran off when we decided to put an end to it. Apples and Pears. The context is different and so is the CB. Which, I might add, is very much waterproof.

too much talking too less action. when is TKR hitting the people of Hogwarts, wherever they may be? 

Edited October 19, 2017 by Tywin Lannister

[Trajan]

This is so long to read, might as well be the next Harry Potter book.

[Zaksaeling]

5 minutes ago, Trajan said:

This is so long to read, might as well be the next Harry Potter book.

Except Harry Potter actually has some action in between the long stretches of exposition, intrigue, and threats. 

Although they both are a waste of time to read. 

[Buorhann]

WAIT WHAT DID I MISS

[hadesflames]

Just now, Buorhann said:

WAIT WHAT DID I MISS

Silly plots and garbage schemes.

[Buorhann]

Well, I knew of the UPN spiel ahead of time, but I've been out of town due to personal stuff  (Cancer sucks).

[hope]

wew lads time to turn off the computer and go outside

[Don Juan]

3 minutes ago, Buorhann said:

Well, I knew of the UPN spiel ahead of time, but I've been out of town due to personal stuff  (Cancer sucks).

Cancer does suck, I hope things get better IRL.

[Trajan]

5 minutes ago, Zaksaeling said:

Except Harry Potter actually has some action in between the long stretches of exposition, intrigue, and threats. 

Although they both are a waste of time to read. 

Who needs the books when the movies had Emma Watson in it 

[Sketchy]

Partisan in public: Aye, fight and you may die. Run, and you’ll live… at least a while. And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin’ to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they’ll never take… OUR POLITICAL DYNAMISM!

Partisan in private: No really you should run, I’ll go post a desperate attempt to disable our enemies CB while simultaneously virtue signalling about how Hogwarts are the arbiters of truth and change in the game.

 

Come on Partisan you are better than this lmfao.

 

[Tywin Lannister]

3 minutes ago, Buorhann said:

Well, I knew of the UPN spiel ahead of time, but I've been out of town due to personal stuff  (Cancer sucks).

Shit man, sad to hear that. Get better soon. 

[Thalmor]

2 minutes ago, Hope said:

wew lads time to turn off the computer and go outside

&#33;@#&#036; off it's like 50 degrees outside.

[hope]

1 minute ago, Thalmor said:

&#33;@#&#036; off it's like 50 degrees outside.

obviously it wasnt cold enough to go outside and take a photo of yourself in a templar costume

[Buorhann]

1 minute ago, Tywin Lannister said:

Shit man, sad to hear that. Get better soon. 

Oh no, not me.  My best friend passed away.  Although it did scare me enough that when I got back, I immediately arranged health check ups just in case.  It was pretty surreal.  Less than a month and it got him, a very aggressive form.

[Johnny Costello]

39 minutes ago, Partisan said:

I told abbas he could finaly apply but he declined.

I will come learn the art of potions one day my friend