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[ComradeMilton]

16 hours ago, Edgar Allen Poe said:

(This assumes you're aware of conservative politics being a sect of the Democratic Party as a way of punishing Lincoln for the civil war.) And I accuse you of a biased view of history, also an inaccurate take on it here. More Republicans(of which I am not one by the way) supported integration and voting rights. Just not true. If you recall the governors of many Southern states made a big show of using their National Guards to actively prevent the continuation of integration despite it being the law now. Lyndon Johnson (a Democrat) sent the 101st to escort them daily and force the issue. I know this because I studied the build up to the Civil Rights Act and what it attempted to do for the Native American population. Most of the Democrats(91 in the House and 21 in the Senate) opposed it while most of the Republicans(136 in the House and 27 in the Senate) supported it. The few Republicans(35 in the House and 6 in the Senate) who opposed it did so with the reasoning that it went against their libertarian ideals for not allowing social ideology to govern law for moral reasoning. I will concede that there were more Democrats overall who voted in favor of the Act simply because they had more in office. Were any of the opposition Racists? Probably. But do not paint the picture that Democrats are or were for Civil Rights and the Standard Bearers of Social Justice. If you believe in that lie then you are a bigger idiot than you paint yourself to be. LBJ introduced the Civil Rights legislation. I suspect you might've noticed which political party he was affiliated with as president and many of the actions taken by him when Southern states just wouldn't submit to Supreme Court rulings.Several conservatives (calling themselves Democrats, but that's explained later) filibustered for quite significant amounts of time to try to prevent the passage of the Civil Rights grouping of laws.

As for the monuments, I really don't care to be honest. I just found it more amusing you turned it into an anti Conservative rant and threw in subjective history, then called me ignorant- all because I pointed out a fact which surprisingly is true considering many, not all but most I have researched, were paid for by organizations which supported or were politically affiliated with the Democratic Party between 1910's to 1950's. Look it up yourself. Those Democrats being called blue dogs for not actually being Democrats in a meaningful way, but just as a way to continually spite Lincoln's part for the Civil War. With that in mind you're quite explicitly admitting political conservatives were the opposing force which is accurate.

 

[WISD0MTREE]

On 8/24/2017 at 3:20 PM, Rozalia said:

Usually they are attractive, in a America bikini, holding a gun, both.

You mean something like this? 

 

IMO, that's one ugly ass gun.

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I haven't been following the conversation at all, but using women to make something either appear to appeal to both genders or obtain more males in a subject has been going on for as long as I know. If you look up "Weapon Outfitters" on Google, most (if not all) images will be girls from the cover of their magazine. Magpul's calendars are mostly (if not completely) female. I'm sure ESPN puts females on their covers. It's like how attack ads use the not-quite appealing pictures (towards the middle of this ad). 

I swear I hate living in NC. I could go hours without hearing an ad not related to politics last election. 

Edited August 25, 2017 by WISD0MTREE
Misspelled /spoiler

[Dubayoo]

19 hours ago, Rozalia said:

Perhaps Caecus has better words to use here because I'm simply puzzled. The Alt-Right, that is the Nazi and White Nat sorts are not Feminists. As extreme as they are as I tell people, they are men, not robots. So these supposed white only guys are known to have dated or are married to Asians and Jews. When found out they get some hate but are allowed to continue. The Daily Shoah guy for example when found to be married to a Jewish woman was allowed to continue though I hear like the pathetic excuse for a man he is he is now apparently getting separated now that he has been found out. A woman who is found to have dated/married to a black man or whatever else is lost forever however and the vileness of the comments towards such women has to be seen to be believed. These people love to talk of cuckoldry but they are huge cucks themselves at the end of the day. Not alone of course. Black men and Muslim men are the other two major cuck groups.

As for why they put attractive white women... uh, they want to essentially say that it ain't a complete sausage fest and that they have "the best women". A comparable example I can state is republicans who post loads of images of republican women. Usually they are attractive, in a America bikini, holding a gun, both. The message they promote being that Republican women are attractive while Liberal/Democrat women are all ugly this and that. For the Alt-Right guys putting these women forward, it is no different. 

A sausage fest is based around appealing to the most attractive women though.  When you only include 8s, 9s, and 10s, that literally excludes 70% of women which means your gender ratio is going to be imbalanced.  Do Republicans do what you're saying?  Yes, but those tend to be the neocon or libertarian sorts, not mainstream proper conservatives who care about principled grace. 

It also comes off as childish, immature, and juvenile.  Married couples understand how beauty fades over time, yet love is still made and enjoyed because of how it's done. They know it's the moves you use that symbolize the memories you make together that count, especially when the lights are turned down and you really can't see your partner anyway; as long as you're in decent shape and health, appearances really don't make a difference in exciting an adult partner.  If anything, appearances become boring over time since you develop emotional tolerance.  This especially afflicts men with ED.  

The alt-right's refusal to focus on the depth of culture's principles in how it's made while believing everything comes down to simply acting out your feelings based on your race shows that it doesn't really know what it's talking about.   

Edited August 25, 2017 by Dubayoo

[Ogaden]

I agree that safe spaces and political correctness are bullshit, the police should stop forming safe spaces around nazis and let society sort this out for ourselves.

[ComradeMilton]

Who is forcing everyone to just alter a handful of terms that're more preferred to whoever populates those groups? There are consequences in the places outside of government. The safe spaces shit is really !@#$ing dumb, as a pro-choice/non-abortion hyperliberal in favor of UBI and so on.

[Rozalia]

11 hours ago, Dubayoo said:

A sausage fest is based around appealing to the most attractive women though.  When you only include 8s, 9s, and 10s, that literally excludes 70% of women which means your gender ratio is going to be imbalanced.  Do Republicans do what you're saying?  Yes, but those tend to be the neocon or libertarian sorts, not mainstream proper conservatives who care about principled grace. 

It also comes off as childish, immature, and juvenile.  Married couples understand how beauty fades over time, yet love is still made and enjoyed because of how it's done. They know it's the moves you use that symbolize the memories you make together that count, especially when the lights are turned down and you really can't see your partner anyway; as long as you're in decent shape and health, appearances really don't make a difference in exciting an adult partner.  If anything, appearances become boring over time since you develop emotional tolerance.  This especially afflicts men with ED.  

The alt-right's refusal to focus on the depth of culture's principles in how it's made while believing everything comes down to simply acting out your feelings based on your race shows that it doesn't really know what it's talking about.   

What... is your point? Attractive women work so all manner of groups use them. Nothing more to it. As stated, the Alt-Right is not Feminist.

3 hours ago, Ogaden said:

I agree that safe spaces and political correctness are bullshit, the police should stop forming safe spaces around nazis and let society sort this out for ourselves.

Cute. In those sort of games the meanest win. So if you want your friends in bodybags then go for it I suppose. 

[ComradeMilton]

I mean if you actually need a safe space most universities have at least one chapel area open to and not offending anyone who wants a quiet place to pray or think or just release some stress.

[Dubayoo]

18 hours ago, Rozalia said:

What... is your point? Attractive women work so all manner of groups use them. Nothing more to it. As stated, the Alt-Right is not Feminist.

Eh... attractive women only work with immature minds who don't think about the depth of romantic relationships.  Feminism doesn't care about romantic relationships.  It just wants to deconstruct organic social fabric and family values to encourage promiscuity for instant gratification.  

[ComradeMilton]

Feminism is just a desire for equality from both genders. It'd fit almost anywhere. Hot women can make a lot of money for a while with jobs others can't get. Pharmaceutical sales are a huge one. Then again IDK if White Supremacists are terribly concerned with equality.

[WISD0MTREE]

1 hour ago, ComradeMilton said:

Then again IDK if White Supremacists are terribly concerned with equality.

Do you really think you're arguing with Nazis here? 

[ComradeMilton]

On 8/26/2017 at 11:31 PM, WISD0MTREE said:

Do you really think you're arguing with Nazis here? 

It fits. Racism along with the political characteristics of fascists that are used to determine who is and who is not a fascist. As fascists who are racist they become how Mussolini's fascism became Nazism. Entirely accurate.

[WISD0MTREE]

On 8/28/2017 at 4:21 AM, ComradeMilton said:

Racism 

Who here is racist? 

[ComradeMilton]

The one labeled Nazis. That's how one moves from adhering to Fascism and advances to Nazism.

[WISD0MTREE]

18 minutes ago, ComradeMilton said:

The one labeled Nazis. That's how one moves from adhering to Fascism and advances to Nazism.

So whoever the mob thinks are Nazis are Nazis? Because they are the ones labeling people. They are sometimes wrong. 

 

[Rozalia]

10 hours ago, ComradeMilton said:

The one labeled Nazis. That's how one moves from adhering to Fascism and advances to Nazism.

You're a Nazi. You have been labelled. Nazi. 

[ComradeMilton]

59 minutes ago, Rozalia said:

You're a Nazi. You have been labelled. Nazi. 

They're not identifying correctly, no. Fascism has a list of characteristics that give it away and Mussolini's written a book regarding it to use as a decent supplement (whoever translated at least wrote it well). That's the primary difference between straight fascism to Nazism, though.

[Rozalia]

4 hours ago, ComradeMilton said:

They're not identifying correctly, no. Fascism has a list of characteristics that give it away and Mussolini's written a book regarding it to use as a decent supplement (whoever translated at least wrote it well). That's the primary difference between straight fascism to Nazism, though.

You before stated the Fascist policy of governments stopping the reporting of terrorism. You have now stated that you can ID a Nazi when Fascists are labeled as such. You have stated Fascistic things. I have now labeled you a Nazi. Thus you are, by your own words, a Nazi. 

[ComradeMilton]

1 hour ago, Rozalia said:

You before stated the Fascist policy of governments stopping the reporting of terrorism. No, I did not. I provided a 14 characteristics list used for proper identification of someone as fascist or not. None of them even mentioned terrorism or whether it should be reported or not.  You have now stated that you can ID a Nazi when Fascists are labeled as such. I've clarified what differentiates fascists from Nazis. That it's only racism makes it a pretty easy thing to notice or not. You have stated Fascistic things. I have now labeled you a Nazi. Thus you are, by your own words, oa Nazi. 

As ever, you remain incorrect.

 

[Rozalia]

Except you didn't so you're lying as usual again. Go on, quote the post where you post this list. 

[ComradeMilton]

After you post where I said I'd post the list, gladly.

[Rozalia]

[ComradeMilton]

I don't remember that, but fair enough.

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The 14 Defining 
Characteristics Of Fascism
 

Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:   1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.   2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.   3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.   4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.   5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.   6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.   7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.   8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.   9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.   10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.   11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.   12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.   13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.   14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.