kosmokenny Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 It takes a month to build up spies that are then wiped out in one day, leaving a nation completely indefensible from an unidentifiable enemy. Should nations be able to run spy attacks to gain increased odds on their operations? Absolutely. Should that result in a 100% success rate after only one day of targeting spies on a nation that has 60? Absolutely not. Fixing this is as simple as reducing the number of spies that can be assassinated in each attack, or increasing the buy rate of them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollo Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 or both 2 Quote STFU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Scarfalot Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Definitely. Assassination kills too many. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Yeah the ratio is way off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphabravo42 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 At least bring it closer to the rest of the military rebuy times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James II Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 This goes without saying. But I guess Alex needs people to point it out despite complaints for the last 8+ months. Quote "Most successful new AA" - Samuel Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollo Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) Remember, people complained forever to "fix the market" and when he did, everyone's economy got hosed and we ended up pretty much in the same place we were before... be careful what you wish for. Edited August 14, 2017 by rollo 2 Quote STFU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemal Ergenekon Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Lol. So 2 days of 100% protection for your nukes, and reducing 1 more nuke kill every 2-3 days is insufficient protection? Give me a break. Spies have 3 main uses: 1) Kill people's nukes 2) Kill people's spies 3) Protect your own nukes from others' spies by reducing their chance of success as long as your spies live. If the spy rebuild rate is going to be increased, it needs to come coupled with a higher chance of sabotaging nukes when the opponent has more than 2-3 spies. Else, nukes will be invincible until they are used. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James II Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 34 minutes ago, Kemal Ergenekon said: Lol. So 2 days of 100% protection for your nukes, and reducing 1 more nuke kill every 2-3 days is insufficient protection? Give me a break. Spies have 3 main uses: 1) Kill people's nukes 2) Kill people's spies 3) Protect your own nukes from others' spies by reducing their chance of success as long as your spies live. If the spy rebuild rate is going to be increased, it needs to come coupled with a higher chance of sabotaging nukes when the opponent has more than 2-3 spies. Else, nukes will be invincible until they are used. Spying a nuke away and killing someones spies should not be *basically* guaranteed. Sure you might miss one, but that's about it. That does not aid in creating dynamic game play, nor is it remotely realistic. Quote "Most successful new AA" - Samuel Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmokenny Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 This is a broken mechanic that you are using to screw with us. As soon as you and whoever is helping you are caught red handed, our nukes are going to be used on you and anyone who defends you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apeman Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 All other military can be maxed in a lot less than 20 days. A little equality would be nice for the spy system. Make the max buy for spies into 10 a day and the messed up system sorta corrects itself. Why would anyone even target nukes? They suck right? A losers weapon? The only people that have anything to fear from nukes are the ones that are seeking their attention. I get it, when you hold yours in your hand, you are left wanting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemal Ergenekon Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 7 hours ago, James II said: Spying a nuke away and killing someones spies should not be *basically* guaranteed. Sure you might miss one, but that's about it. That does not aid in creating dynamic game play, nor is it remotely realistic. If you remove the ability to use spies to sabotage nukes, then spies become *completely* useless. That makes the game less dynamic. It would be equivalent to removing spies altogether, because they aren't remotely useful for anything else. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmokenny Posted August 15, 2017 Author Share Posted August 15, 2017 You suck at reading. Nobody has said to make it impossible to do. We are only asking that it no longer be impossible to stop. You also sucked at reading your league of extraordinary douchebags thread last year when I warned you of the consequences of this crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubayoo Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Arcane is your friend. 1 Quote My Avie: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/senna/ Shortened versions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9qZu7h5ys0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvVqSpS65VE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James II Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Dubayoo said: Arcane is your friend. The difference it makes is negligible. The spy system is broken and people are exploiting it. Quote "Most successful new AA" - Samuel Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripper Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 10 hours ago, Apeman said: Why would anyone even target nukes? They suck right? A losers weapon? Well, apparently, spies are a winner's weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Costello Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Yeah I say the spy assassination ratio is way off. No more than 4 spies should be killed with each operation Quote I hold the Right to my own Fate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollo Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 you can buy a 3rd anniversary flag and see how many people have been logged in during the last hour. how many improvements do you people want? Quote STFU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WISD0MTREE Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 IMO, a hard cap (as opposed to a soft cap) on spies was a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Fix the spy system please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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