Jets Nation Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Valkyrie is now dedicated to spreading democracy around Orbis. Join the cause of Spreading democracy today and Help Valkyrie build an arsenal of democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patty Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) So this is who valkyrie hired for advertising? just kidding your cool pls dont nuke me kthx Edited May 15, 2017 by Catsby Quote "There's nothing you can know that isn't known,Nothing you can see that isn't shown,There's nowhere you can be that isn't where you're meant to be, All you need is love,Love is all you need." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quichwe10 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Welcome to democratics good friend! TFP welcomes another user of its greatest defense and decision making apparatus! Just make sure to stay away from Monarchists and dictators, especially those Communists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurdanak Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 #Thalmor4HighKing 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Partisan, can we hit them again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenclaw Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Valkyrie is now dedicated to spreading democracy around Orbis. Join the cause of Spreading democracy today and Help Valkyrie build an arsenal of democracy. FYI, you really need to cease this !@#$gotry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pheonix Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 especially those Communists. What about a communist democracy, imagine NPO's crazy econ shit with conerstones government. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheonix Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) Not that NPO is communist or anything Edited May 15, 2017 by Pheonix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchy Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Valkyrie, quick one of them escaped! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt2004 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Oi - Democracy is our thing. Well, Strong and Stable democracy anyway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Nation Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 Oh well I was hopping for a better reception than this but I guess most of the world of orbis is still caught up in monarchy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalmor Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Oh well I was hopping for a better reception than this but I guess most of the world of orbis is still caught up in monarchy. This is because there's historic precedent on Politics and War that a largely democratic system just doesn't work. There are many alliances that have been around for a long while and are of high-quality, yet still have some democratic elements. However, alliances that are very democratic usually just don't work out for a variety of reasons. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anneal Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 This is because there's historic precedent on Politics and War that a largely democratic system just doesn't work. There are many alliances that have been around for a long while and are of high-quality, yet still have some democratic elements. However, alliances that are very democratic usually just don't work out for a variety of reasons. ...And historical precedence in real life, too, if we're talking about direct democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostWorld Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 good initiative Valkyrie. Orbis should be able to learn the better way. Thalmor this didn't work because Orbis at that time wasn t a mature environment. Also many players are extremely imature. It may work now. The way it works now/until now is that alliances dictate ww politics therefore undermining state sovereignty. You don't comply you get raided. This is not ok and just kills all the other possibilities that could make this game great. So far we re a bunch of retarded kids whos only achievement in life is a ww monopoly in a game whether it's orbis or china. that's just stupid and narrow minded. We are under the siege of authoritarian dictatorship and pawns in the grand scheme of a few guys that happen to be first to discover China or land on Orbis. Orbis. Rebel!!! There is a better way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostWorld Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 About how democracy works... there was that theorem - Condorcet Jury Theorem that was supposed to prove that democracies do work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmokenny Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Farkistan hails your democratic uprising, and hopes for the sake of your internal stability that all of your citizens are as singly focused on nuking everyone as ours are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripper Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Orbis. Rebel!!! There is a better way. Yes. Anarchy like in Arrgh. Much better for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jroc Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 This won't work, nothing beats a solid dictatorship.Also, see why democracy sucks below: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin D Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 About how democracy works... there was that theorem - Condorcet Jury Theorem that was supposed to prove that democracies do work.That theorem isn't practical for the real world. It doesn't directly apply to decisions with more than 2 outcomes. There can be multiple choices and in order to choose the "most correct" choice, everyone would have to be really informed. If you say the "most correct" choice still has the best odds over all other choices you are setting the bar really high for the average voter. A single person or group of people with a lot of knowledge on the subject has a better chance of getting the "most correct" answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostWorld Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) what if we found a UN like structure and the most powerful alliances, part of a defence council, would act as guarantee of its decisions. It would theoretically work if such structure would be large enough that other alliances could not raid it. It is true that decision making process will be slower, but it will be informed and it ll make space for rethoric and debates. So in this situation i do not see it possible unless all the bigger alliances are brought to the same negotiation talks. Also another incentive for forming realistic alliances would be the regional argument. Alliances are usually formed within the same area/region. The current game mechanics treats invading a distant nation like invading the next door girl. no resource/time consumption/penalty no nothing - in this context the current state of world affairs and diplomacy is explainable. It is my belief that a more reasonable approach to World Affairs would require changing this situation... those are my thoughts. This is a simulation, let s make it as real as possible. Edited May 21, 2017 by LostWorld 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Nation Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 BTW Valkyrie is a representational democracy. And you may say democracy's dont work but We are in the top 20 and a living and thriving example of democracy in orbis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Nation Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 I totally agree with you Robert Wolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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