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What a nice gentleman, defending Hillary Clinton's honor by firing Comey. What do you guys think? Trump must be someone who is fair and level-headed. 

It's a useful mental exercise. Through the years, many thinkers have been fascinated by it. But I don't enjoy playing. It was a game that was born during a brutal age when life counted for little. Everyone believed that some people were worth more than others. Kings. Pawns. I don't think that anyone is worth more than anyone else. Chess is just a game. Real people are not pieces. You can't assign more value to some of them and not others. Not to me. Not to anyone. People are not a thing that you can sacrifice. The lesson is, if anyone who looks on to the world as if it was a game of chess, deserves to lose.

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Oh yeah, this will be a thread full of dignity, civil discussions, critical thinking, and nothing but the utmost respect for opposing thoughts and views.

 

 

I'll be enjoying my popcorn now.

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Trump reached out to the Democrats who for six months have been calling for Comey to be fired. What diplomacy! 

 

Agreed. All this talk of Trump firing Comey because Comey was in the middle of an investigation on Trump and Russia is crazy. Trump fired Comey because Comey was over-exaggerating on the scale of Clinton's emails like the liar he is. Trump is an honorable man who cares about Clinton so much, he fired the FBI director for misleading the general public towards the end of the 2016 election.

 

He's also reaching out to democrats with this move, which is obvious by how many democratic senators and representatives he informed ahead of time right before his firing. It's also been pretty successful, I'm sure his new healthcare bill will now pass the senate with overwhelming support from the democrats who he reached out to. After all, a majority of the democratic leaders have already started to be really nice to Trump.  

 

But then all these anti-trumpeters keep saying that "Oh, Comey went to the deputy attorney general to ask for more resources on the Trump investigation right before he was fired." Well have they ever heard of coincidences? Those idiots. 

It's a useful mental exercise. Through the years, many thinkers have been fascinated by it. But I don't enjoy playing. It was a game that was born during a brutal age when life counted for little. Everyone believed that some people were worth more than others. Kings. Pawns. I don't think that anyone is worth more than anyone else. Chess is just a game. Real people are not pieces. You can't assign more value to some of them and not others. Not to me. Not to anyone. People are not a thing that you can sacrifice. The lesson is, if anyone who looks on to the world as if it was a game of chess, deserves to lose.

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Agreed. All this talk of Trump firing Comey because Comey was in the middle of an investigation on Trump and Russia is crazy. Trump fired Comey because Comey was over-exaggerating on the scale of Clinton's emails like the liar he is. Trump is an honorable man who cares about Clinton so much, he fired the FBI director for misleading the general public towards the end of the 2016 election.

 

He's also reaching out to democrats with this move, which is obvious by how many democratic senators and representatives he informed ahead of time right before his firing. It's also been pretty successful, I'm sure his new healthcare bill will now pass the senate with overwhelming support from the democrats who he reached out to. After all, a majority of the democratic leaders have already started to be really nice to Trump.  

 

But then all these anti-trumpeters keep saying that "Oh, Comey went to the deputy attorney general to ask for more resources on the Trump investigation right before he was fired." Well have they ever heard of coincidences? Those idiots. 

 

Indeed, Clinton should have been arrested to give Trump the autowin so Comey mislead the public by clearing her. Trump being merciful gave Comey amble time to kowtow in penance which he did not and enough is clearly enough. 

 

As Trump says, he won't be dumb and tell people what he is going to do as he has great plans, the best plans, but they got to be secret until the last moment to be as effective as they can be. Comey being taken by surprise was given no means to wipe any data or keep/send any off to damage Trump. Got to treat such hostile people with caution. 

 

Comey is quoted by sources friendly/neutral to him as not having bent the knee. As you know, those who not bow to the Emperor are removed which is what this is really about. If an investigation was being done or not it would have turned up nothing that could impeach Trump, not that you and others wouldn't just keep talking about it anyway. I mean it makes no sense to try and get heat off by doing something that puts even more heat on. Trump simply wants one of his boys in there like Gowdy or if he is feeling particularly trollish Clarke, working to rip apart his enemies. 

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Yeah, he didn't kowtow. After all, he kept on with his investigation into Trump and Russia. Can Trump fire some Senators or representatives? I think there are still some senators who haven't kissed the don's ring yet. Hell, just fire all the democrats. Send in Pence with a manila folder and serve them a plate of ice cold authoritarianism. 

 

Yep. That's Comey's biggest problem, he should have bent over and have Trump subpoena all over his back. I'm also pretty sure you know you know how impeachment works too. I'm preeettttyyyyy sure. Pretty sure. 

It's a useful mental exercise. Through the years, many thinkers have been fascinated by it. But I don't enjoy playing. It was a game that was born during a brutal age when life counted for little. Everyone believed that some people were worth more than others. Kings. Pawns. I don't think that anyone is worth more than anyone else. Chess is just a game. Real people are not pieces. You can't assign more value to some of them and not others. Not to me. Not to anyone. People are not a thing that you can sacrifice. The lesson is, if anyone who looks on to the world as if it was a game of chess, deserves to lose.

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Pesky system in place that prevents him getting rid of some folk but hey, where there is a will there is a way. We'll see. 

 

Trump wants one of his boys in there. Trump gave Comey amble chance to be one of his boys and he refused, so he got the sack. It really is that simple and if say you get your magical impeachment that is how it'll work when Trump's new guy then gets sacked too. 

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Pesky system in place that prevents him getting rid of some folk but hey, where there is a will there is a way. We'll see. 

 

Trump wants one of his boys in there. Trump gave Comey amble chance to be one of his boys and he refused, so he got the sack. It really is that simple and if say you get your magical impeachment that is how it'll work when Trump's new guy then gets sacked too. 

 

Seeing as how you have such a grand understanding of the American impeachment process, I'll just leave this for you:

 

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+was+the+first+article+of+impeachment+for+President+Nixon%3F

It's a useful mental exercise. Through the years, many thinkers have been fascinated by it. But I don't enjoy playing. It was a game that was born during a brutal age when life counted for little. Everyone believed that some people were worth more than others. Kings. Pawns. I don't think that anyone is worth more than anyone else. Chess is just a game. Real people are not pieces. You can't assign more value to some of them and not others. Not to me. Not to anyone. People are not a thing that you can sacrifice. The lesson is, if anyone who looks on to the world as if it was a game of chess, deserves to lose.

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What are you implying? How is the clock on your getting deported from here by the way? No wonder you're pushing for it so much, timer is running down. 

 

Sorry buddy, but Trump won't be impeached. Republicans know who is boss at the end of the day.

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What are you implying? How is the clock on your getting deported from here by the way? No wonder you're pushing for it so much, timer is running down. 

 

Sorry buddy, but Trump won't be impeached. Republicans know who is boss at the end of the day.

 

I'm not implying anything. I'm simply helping you google what the first god-damn article of impeachment for Nixon was. But you already knew what that was, since you are SO knowledgeable about the American political system. I mean, it's practically the same thing as Britain! 

 

Wait a second...Trump is suppose to be the champion of the common people. Now Trump is a mob boss demanding people to kiss the ring. When is he going to go full mustachioed strongman? Can Trump even grow facial hair? 

 

Deported? Do you mean the bet I made with Vincent? Did he ever take that bet? If memory serves, he saw the Michael Flynn shit and wisely thought it was a bad bet to make. Or are you wanting to make that bet yourself? Do you remember the terms of the bet? You do know it is still year 1 of Trump's presidency right? Like, it's not even half way through the first year yet. 

It's a useful mental exercise. Through the years, many thinkers have been fascinated by it. But I don't enjoy playing. It was a game that was born during a brutal age when life counted for little. Everyone believed that some people were worth more than others. Kings. Pawns. I don't think that anyone is worth more than anyone else. Chess is just a game. Real people are not pieces. You can't assign more value to some of them and not others. Not to me. Not to anyone. People are not a thing that you can sacrifice. The lesson is, if anyone who looks on to the world as if it was a game of chess, deserves to lose.

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You are really having a hard time as usual mate. Look just think how many times the words "Trump is finished this time, he has gone too far" have been said. Trump goes against the norms all the time and nothing happens. You know he won't get impeached over this, I know it, everybody knows it. I merely say how reality is and for all your talk you have been wrong again and again and again. 

 

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I just went and looked and yeah, weakness on his part. As for myself I would rather not be responsible for straight up running someone out of the game which is what your specifications listed would happen on failure. Whatever the case when the year is up you'll see how foolish you were. 

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You are really having a hard time as usual mate. Look just think how many times the words "Trump is finished this time, he has gone too far" have been said. Trump goes against the norms all the time and nothing happens. You know he won't get impeached over this, I know it, everybody knows it. I merely say how reality is and for all your talk you have been wrong again and again and again. 

 

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I just went and looked and yeah, weakness on his part. As for myself I would rather not be responsible for straight up running someone out of the game which is what your specifications listed would happen on failure. Whatever the case when the year is up you'll see how foolish you were.

 

Oh really? Are you saying that because you genuinely think Trump is going to last longer than a year or are you saying that because you are afraid that if you lose you will be embarrassed? Whatever the case, when the year is up, I'll rub it in your face when you see how foolish you were. 

It's a useful mental exercise. Through the years, many thinkers have been fascinated by it. But I don't enjoy playing. It was a game that was born during a brutal age when life counted for little. Everyone believed that some people were worth more than others. Kings. Pawns. I don't think that anyone is worth more than anyone else. Chess is just a game. Real people are not pieces. You can't assign more value to some of them and not others. Not to me. Not to anyone. People are not a thing that you can sacrifice. The lesson is, if anyone who looks on to the world as if it was a game of chess, deserves to lose.

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Oh really? Are you saying that because you genuinely think Trump is going to last longer than a year or are you saying that because you are afraid that if you lose you will be embarrassed? Whatever the case, when the year is up, I'll rub it in your face when you see how foolish you were. 

 

Of course he'll last longer than a year. Just not going to take up a bet you offered to someone else that would run you out of the game entirely. 

 

Cool. Then when you lose I expect a thread on here where you state, with feeling, that you were wrong, not as sagacious as The Roz, and that you will not doubt The Donald or The Roz again. 

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Funny that the collusion on Hillary's camp toward the Sanders campaign is ignored. Mysteriously there is Russian collusion being claimed by the Hillary camp as Trump wins the election. Comey is blamed for not removing Hillary in cuffs by the Repugnants then Comey is blamed for Hillary's loss of the election by the Liberats. Comey can't get a break either way. In any case its his own damn fault though. He should have stopped being a political figure and did his job properly. Instead he cut his own safety line when he refused to do his job properly with the last, recent Hillary Scandal. He lost his credibility and defaced the FBI.

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Funny that the collusion on Hillary's camp toward the Sanders campaign is ignored. Mysteriously there is Russian collusion being claimed by the Hillary camp as Trump wins the election. Comey is blamed for not removing Hillary in cuffs by the Repugnants then Comey is blamed for Hillary's loss of the election by the Liberats. Comey can't get a break either way. In any case its his own damn fault though. He should have stopped being a political figure and did his job properly. Instead he cut his own safety line when he refused to do his job properly with the last, recent Hillary Scandal. He lost his credibility and defaced the FBI.

 

So, let me break this down for you. Hillary's collusion against Sanders was inside the Democratic party among top campaign organizers trying to shift public opinion against Sanders - who is an independent, not an actual registered Democrat. That's ENTIRELY incomparable to the possibility that a candidate colluded with a foreign power to get themselves elected. Anyone who thinks there is any level of equivalency is either misinformed, a radical partisan to a country-destroying extent, or has existed for less than 12 years. Hillary claims Trump colluded with the Russians because Russia (and this is a fact) attempted to influence our election. While there is no definitive proof of collusion, it is a possibility, which is why the FBI and the House and Senate intelligence committees are actively investigating that possibility. 

 

As for Comey's past record, I think I would agree that he stuck his neck too far into the political realm, whether it was saying he would not prosecute Clinton without handing it over to the Justice Department or disclosing the new emails found on the private laptop of ex-representative Dicpic. However, Comey's past record is entirely irrelevant in Trump's firing Comey. Trump fired Comey because he wanted to stop the Russia investigation. Don't take my word for it, the President himself said it on national television, contradicting the carefully crafted argument that Comey was fired because he was a terrible FBI director. It made Fox News, his VP, and all of his press secretaries look like idiots and liars. 

 

Seeing as how Roz doesn't know what the first article of impeachment for Nixon was (even though I went through all that effort to help him find out what it is), I'll just spell it out for him here: Nixon was impeached because of "obstruction of justice," when he fired the special prosecutor investigating Watergate. Trump fired the FBI director and admitted on national television that he fired him because he was investigating Russia. That's called obstruction of justice, and if the democrats held the majority in the House they would have already sent articles to the Senate. 

 

That's excluding all the shit he's done since then. Sure, you can be like Roz and point to the fact that Trump has done ridiculous shit in the past and nobody gave a flying !@#$. That's actually a pretty compelling point, considering that Trump had become more or less an immortal political god from the number of times he shot himself. However, I would argue he's being held on by a string. Trump is unstable, crazier than the obese King in the North, with an infinitely more competent and capable VP ready to take his place in the case of impeachment. Republicans are only looking for a time when public opinion has shifted so far away from Trump that it would be safe for them to present articles of impeachment. It varies between the districts in the House, but you can already see the cracks in the Senate, which actually depends on moderates in their states to get them elected. 

It's a useful mental exercise. Through the years, many thinkers have been fascinated by it. But I don't enjoy playing. It was a game that was born during a brutal age when life counted for little. Everyone believed that some people were worth more than others. Kings. Pawns. I don't think that anyone is worth more than anyone else. Chess is just a game. Real people are not pieces. You can't assign more value to some of them and not others. Not to me. Not to anyone. People are not a thing that you can sacrifice. The lesson is, if anyone who looks on to the world as if it was a game of chess, deserves to lose.

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Ah. That's cute. What this implies is that Trump fired Comey for lying to him about being under investigation, a claim made in the letter which fired Comey. Here are some issues with that:

 

1. It goes against the narrative that Trump fired Comey for not being accurate about the Clinton statement. 

2. It is an unsubstantiated claim from someone who is infamous for lying.

3. It still doesn't change the fact that TRUMP ADMITTED ON NATIONAL !@#$ing TELEVISION THAT HE FIRED COMEY FOR INVESTIGATING HIS TIES TO RUSSIA. 

 

Even the Independent didn't have the balls to spell it out because it's so !@#$ing fake. I'm wondering if they ever put up the section of the clip where he admitted to Holt that he fired Comey for investigating the collusion.

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Hillary claims Trump colluded with the Russians because Russia (and this is a fact) attempted to influence our election

Could you please share those facts? I am dead serious because I have never been able to find a single source which gives actual clarity as to exactly how any of the supposed influences are in fact from the Russian government.

 

To be more open, I read an article recently which went into how Saudi Arabia has done more than Russia is accused of doing in virtually every Federal election since Nixon.

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Could you please share those facts? I am dead serious because I have never been able to find a single source which gives actual clarity as to exactly how any of the supposed influences are in fact from the Russian government.

 

To be more open, I read an article recently which went into how Saudi Arabia has done more than Russia is accused of doing in virtually every Federal election since Nixon.

 

The link below is a declassified report from the DNI published on the 6th of January and presented to the intelligence committees in both the Senate and House in December of last year. It's a rather long document detailing the "exact supposed influences" from the Russian government and is only the public version, of which the intelligence version presumably longer and includes details on intelligence gathering methods that are state secrets. You can also take the word of representatives and senators alike from both parties who have actually read this document and have access to better intelligence than we do when they say Russia tried to influence our election. There isn't a single politician today (with the exception of the man in the white house himself, and even then, Spicy admitted it in his press briefings) who would deny Russia's influence into the US election. 

 

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

 

 

By all means, please link your news article. I never heard of this, and this is so far left field, I am genuinely curious where this came from. 

 

 

Caecus, have you no respect for the man who just gave the greatest commencement speech ever?

 

Lol, I actually haven't seen the entire speech yet. So when I do, I will probably have a lliiiiitttttllleee bit of respect :P

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The link below is a declassified report from the DNI published on the 6th of January and presented to the intelligence committees in both the Senate and House in December of last year. It's a rather long document detailing the "exact supposed influences" from the Russian government and is only the public version, of which the intelligence version presumably longer and includes details on intelligence gathering methods that are state secrets. You can also take the word of representatives and senators alike from both parties who have actually read this document and have access to better intelligence than we do when they say Russia tried to influence our election. There isn't a single politician today (with the exception of the man in the white house himself, and even then, Spicy admitted it in his press briefings) who would deny Russia's influence into the US election. 

 

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

 

 

By all means, please link your news article. I never heard of this, and this is so far left field, I am genuinely curious where this came from. 

 

 

Yeah, that report has been read several times out loud by half of the committee to drill in their point, which still does not show any actual evidence to the claim. It only concludes that a lot of people assume Russia is acting like the former Soviet Union in the Kremlin office. The report itself delves more into the history of RT and cites it more than anything else as well, likening RT to CNN. I chuckled at the Breaking the Set references as if libertarianism is a great evil considering what the show was about.

 

Considering Feinstein has assessed there was no collusion, nor Chaffetz, who is leaving office after his term is up says a lot as to what people can comment on. I would not say everyone in DC agrees there was collusion, but a lot of silence while letting the obnoxious have the bullhorn.

 

I personally think this whole debacle is a witch hunt. I also personally still agree this last election was the worst in history for the US. Marcus Aurelius is dead so now Commodus and a corrupt Senate are ready to drive the nation into disarray all while the Coliseum spoonfeeds the public opinion.

 

You hated Trump and are not willing to accept him as POTUS. I get it. But even you should be sharp enough to see the smokescreen of this ridiculous collusion fabrication.

 

It was an opinion article simply showing how other nations have used subtle ways to manipulate American public opinion through media report, financial support, technology such as the internet and other means of opinion during election times. I am still searching my history because I do not remember the exact day-week.

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Yeah, that report has been read several times out loud by half of the committee to drill in their point, which still does not show any actual evidence to the claim. It only concludes that a lot of people assume Russia is acting like the former Soviet Union in the Kremlin office. The report itself delves more into the history of RT and cites it more than anything else as well, likening RT to CNN. I chuckled at the Breaking the Set references as if libertarianism is a great evil considering what the show was about.

 

Considering Feinstein has assessed there was no collusion, nor Chaffetz, who is leaving office after his term is up says a lot as to what people can comment on. I would not say everyone in DC agrees there was collusion, but a lot of silence while letting the obnoxious have the bullhorn.

 

I personally think this whole debacle is a witch hunt. I also personally still agree this last election was the worst in history for the US. Marcus Aurelius is dead so now Commodus and a corrupt Senate are ready to drive the nation into disarray all while the Coliseum spoonfeeds the public opinion.

 

You hated Trump and are not willing to accept him as POTUS. I get it. But even you should be sharp enough to see the smokescreen of this ridiculous collusion fabrication.

 

It was an opinion article simply showing how other nations have used subtle ways to manipulate American public opinion through media report, financial support, technology such as the internet and other means of opinion during election times. I am still searching my history because I do not remember the exact day-week.

 

That depends on what you define as evidence. My definition of evidence includes a professional federal agency (in this case, multiple professional agencies) with a lot more know how than I do saying they have classified evidence and documentation of Russian interference into our election cycle, with the line

 

"Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations."

 

hitting it home. Now, of course, you can also cast doubt on the ability of federal agencies to have conclusive evidence (after all, you aren't the first and certainly won't be the last), however, considering the fact that it is UNIVERSALLY RECOGNIZED by the vast majority of elected politicians from both parties (with the woeful exception of one) who have also seen the evidence that isn't public, I'm inclined to believe that Russia did try to "undermine the US-led liberal democratic order." 

 

Collusion with Russia and Russia trying to influence the election is two different things. Did Chaffez or Feinstein ever say that there was no Russian influence into the election post January 6th? This is irrelevant to what you were responding to. 

 

But is it a witch hunt though? Comey, as much as he stuck his head out into politics too much, was trying to not be partisan (as he should be). Even if Comey was a "partisan," Trump could have called the Justice Department to appoint a special investigator. If Trump was truly without any guilt, he would want the investigation to go as fast as it could to prove otherwise, with the added bonus of discrediting the democrats for being "witch hunters." An independent investigation without any ties to both parties or interests with transparency and expediency would have been to Trump's benefit (assuming innocence), but he fired Comey and admitted on national television he fired him because of the investigation. 

 

We don't know if there is collusion, but since federal intelligence agencies consider it a possibility and worth investigating, it can't be ruled out until the conclusion of the investigation. Again, it doesn't help Trump that he fired Comey and is now in the position to appoint a new FBI director that could intervene in the issue. 

 

If the world was run by opinions instead of facts, Sean Hannity would be a half-nude Greek Hero in a conservative hell hole battling (presumably) the tides of people half his age coked up on weed and debauched flesh orgies on top of a fluid-stained American flag under the Statue of Liberty shedding a small bronze tear. But that depends on the opinion article. I can wait. 

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You are attempting to paint me as stupid/ignorant/whatever to make yourself look better. No. I'm well aware of Nixon but as I told you, it doesn't matter. Trump's rules are not your rules. In the game that is politics he plays by different rules so what would normally sink others (who play with the other set) doesn't for him.

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That depends on what you define as evidence. My definition of evidence includes a professional federal agency (in this case, multiple professional agencies) with a lot more know how than I do saying they have classified evidence and documentation of Russian interference into our election cycle, with the line

 

"Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations."

 

hitting it home. Now, of course, you can also cast doubt on the ability of federal agencies to have conclusive evidence (after all, you aren't the first and certainly won't be the last), however, considering the fact that it is UNIVERSALLY RECOGNIZED by the vast majority of elected politicians from both parties (with the woeful exception of one) who have also seen the evidence that isn't public, I'm inclined to believe that Russia did try to "undermine the US-led liberal democratic order." 

 

Collusion with Russia and Russia trying to influence the election is two different things. Did Chaffez or Feinstein ever say that there was no Russian influence into the election post January 6th? This is irrelevant to what you were responding to. 

 

But is it a witch hunt though? Comey, as much as he stuck his head out into politics too much, was trying to not be partisan (as he should be). Even if Comey was a "partisan," Trump could have called the Justice Department to appoint a special investigator. If Trump was truly without any guilt, he would want the investigation to go as fast as it could to prove otherwise, with the added bonus of discrediting the democrats for being "witch hunters." An independent investigation without any ties to both parties or interests with transparency and expediency would have been to Trump's benefit (assuming innocence), but he fired Comey and admitted on national television he fired him because of the investigation. 

 

We don't know if there is collusion, but since federal intelligence agencies consider it a possibility and worth investigating, it can't be ruled out until the conclusion of the investigation. Again, it doesn't help Trump that he fired Comey and is now in the position to appoint a new FBI director that could intervene in the issue. 

 

If the world was run by opinions instead of facts, Sean Hannity would be a half-nude Greek Hero in a conservative hell hole battling (presumably) the tides of people half his age coked up on weed and debauched flesh orgies on top of a fluid-stained American flag under the Statue of Liberty shedding a small bronze tear. But that depends on the opinion article. I can wait. 

The fact that you state that "we don't know if there is collusion" is the best thing you stated. I say look into it, and that there is now an independent commission, good. However with what has been brought out by the .pdf you posted earlier it still looks like a witch-hunt. I see it as that. Everything being brought up as a mark against RT is the same garbage that could be brought up against the Libertarian Party. It is fishy and I have little trust in agencies to be honest since we went to war with Terrorism in Afghanistan and Iraq. My lack of faith and expectation of honesty went out the window with the Bush WMD blunder from his "Intelligence" agencies.

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