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Trump's cabinet is apparently too white and too male, there isn't enough women, minorities, Hispanics, LBGT and anyone else who wants to be a victim group. Its like a quota of mediocrity that needs to be filled.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/09/donald-trump-administration-cabinet-picks-so-far
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-cabinet-so-white_us_585176a8e4b0ee009eb4c799
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/13/politics/donald-trump-cabinet-diversity/index.html
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/10/13582730/trump-cabinet-advisers-white-men
 
The first thing that should be pointed out is that apparently only stupid people would support Donald Trump and probably work for him as well, all the smart educated people are Democrats obviously so obviously the reason there isn't more non-white men is because they're on the other side, the "intelligent" side. Their thoughts on his cabinet and Republicans in general not being more diverse aren't very logical, think back to this.
 
This need for "diversity" such as displayed in these articles highlight the problem with the west (white countries specifically) that Black Pigeon Speaks explains quite in his video when comparing them East Asian countries/cities.
Swedistan is probably the best example of the problem with the west today and the problem the US had for a long time.
I guess there is a couple of questions from this depending on the type of person.
 
Do you think East Asian countries should be more open and embrace higher crime and such and welcome the death of their people and culture? 
Do you think the need for diversity/mediocrity can be defeated?

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Noted, according to lightning anyone who isn't a white male is mediocre.

 

You know whose cabinet was very diverse?  George W. Bush.  In 2001, it was the most diverse cabinet ever.  Generally, cabinets for the last few decades have been somewhat reflecting the country we live in.  

 

Maybe there's just very few qualified women or minorities who feel comfortable working next to white nationalists and Trump still earnestly tried to recruit them and got told "no thanks".

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Lol. But his cabinet is really white though. Whiter than a cheesecake. No chocolate, no red velvet, no yellow frosting, no brown sugar, just a shit ton of white flour. Lots and lots of white flour. 

 

Pizza. 

It's a useful mental exercise. Through the years, many thinkers have been fascinated by it. But I don't enjoy playing. It was a game that was born during a brutal age when life counted for little. Everyone believed that some people were worth more than others. Kings. Pawns. I don't think that anyone is worth more than anyone else. Chess is just a game. Real people are not pieces. You can't assign more value to some of them and not others. Not to me. Not to anyone. People are not a thing that you can sacrifice. The lesson is, if anyone who looks on to the world as if it was a game of chess, deserves to lose.

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Noted, according to lightning anyone who isn't a white male is mediocre.

 

"quota of mediocrity"

 

 

You know whose cabinet was very diverse?  George W. Bush.  In 2001, it was the most diverse cabinet ever.  Generally, cabinets for the last few decades have been somewhat reflecting the country we live in.  

This reminds me of the Oscars, sometimes they're diverse and other times not so much. Obviously its a problem when they aren't diverse, this needs to be fixed immediately. 

 

 

Maybe there's just very few qualified women or minorities who feel comfortable working next to white nationalists and Trump still earnestly tried to recruit them and got told "no thanks".

The media would still be illogical on this subject if that was the case. 

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This reminds me of the Progressive angle of "Trump is only going to get White votes what a loser, you can't win with just white votes". Then post election it dawned on them, "well crap... whites are still a significant majority of the country... the process is not yet complete oh no".
 
Ultimately it was always going to majority white and Trump knows if he had bothered to pander then they'd still attack him. His Cabinet could tick every box and they'd still attack him for pandering, that the minorities chosen aren't "real" minorities like how Peter Thiel isn't a "real gay man" because he supports Trump. In their twisted minds thats how it works in the end, Ben Carson for example isn't a "real black man" because he isn't a eternal victim or thug which is what they see "real" black men as (which is racist of course, the irony).
 

Noted, according to lightning anyone who isn't a white male is mediocre.
 
Maybe there's just very few qualified women or minorities who feel comfortable working next to white nationalists and Trump still earnestly tried to recruit them and got told "no thanks".

 
When you bring in quotas and hire people solely on race then yes you get mediocre people. That isn't to say that minorities are mediocre, simply that the process of hiring isn't done correctly so you just let in bad people. Trump made the outrageous (and logical) comment that he'd hire the best people for the job regardless of what that person is. Suffice to say most of those people are white men, thats just how it is. 
 
Trump met with plenty of people some of which were even Democrats and Never-Trumpers. Throughout the process the message has been he'll hire the best, simple as that. Tulsi Gabbard for example was a contender for the Secretary of State job. Perhaps she didn't get it because she is a Progressive Democrat which would cause too much friction, perhaps she turned it down as her working with LITERALLY HITLER would be bad for her, perhaps she simply cannot offer what Rex can. Whatever the reason Trump certainly was not denying people due to their race.

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Diversity for the sake of diversity is ridiculous. When it comes to government positions, only the most qualified people should be chosen based on experience and skills. Their gender, ethnicity, or sexual orientation is irrelevant. 

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Diversity for the sake of diversity is ridiculous. When it comes to government positions, only the most qualified people should be chosen based on experience and skills. Their gender, ethnicity, or sexual orientation is irrelevant. 

 

Lol, so you must not agree with Trump's picks.

 

 

 

I guess the greater question is, why is diversity important? Why would we need diversity anywhere? Why can't we just have old white males? 

It's a useful mental exercise. Through the years, many thinkers have been fascinated by it. But I don't enjoy playing. It was a game that was born during a brutal age when life counted for little. Everyone believed that some people were worth more than others. Kings. Pawns. I don't think that anyone is worth more than anyone else. Chess is just a game. Real people are not pieces. You can't assign more value to some of them and not others. Not to me. Not to anyone. People are not a thing that you can sacrifice. The lesson is, if anyone who looks on to the world as if it was a game of chess, deserves to lose.

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Lol, so you must not agree with Trump's picks.

 

I actually do. I do disagree with Carson for HUD, though. I also don't really like Rick Petty for EPA. The rest seem fine, though.

 

I guess the greater question is, why is diversity important? Why would we need diversity anywhere? Why can't we just have old white males? 

 

If I was hiring someone for something, I'd look at their talents and experience. Just being black or a woman doesn't automatically make you certificated like some people think. Of course, if some black lady or gay Chinese man came in and had plenty of good recommendations and experience, I'd be happy to hire them. But, for some reason, there seems to be some people who think that gender or race is more important than credentials, and I don't really get that.

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Who cares?

 

As long as they can get the job done, I'm fine with it.  Even if they're all straight white males.

 

Think about the Obama Admin with their embrace of "diversity".  

Eight years later, we haven't had 3% GDP growth in any FY quarter, haven't defeated ISIS, haven't eliminated the possibility of Iranian nuclear weapons ... you know.

 

The magic equation for everything is not "diversity", it's one's resume and experience.

 

If Al Sharpton and James Baker were in running for Secretary of State I know who I would choose.

It's not because Baker's white.  It's because he's more responsible, trustworthy, appropriate, cooperative, etc.

 

Even if you don't like Trump, give him a chance before crying "his cabinet is too white".  

It just makes you sound like a whiny socialist who didn't get his/her/any one of the 1,000s of new "pronouns", way.

 

JYC

Running for UPN Senate February '17!

 

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PS - diversity is NOT a difference in race, sex, or other demographic categories.

        instead, it is difference in thought, style, and ability -- things that differ for members of all demographic categories (and that actually matter).

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I'm more concerned that the so-called "help the middle class populist" is filling his cabinet with billionaires from Goldman Sachs.  And if they were all black billionaires from Goldman Sachs I'd be just as concerned.  He's draining the swamp right into his cabinet.

 

Ben Carson seems like a logical political pick.  Not qualified for the job...nope.  But when he dropped out he lent his support to Trump and he has been an unwavering friend to Trump since then.  Politics is obviously also about politics.

 

He just has to wear this shirt now.

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I'm more concerned that the so-called "help the middle class populist" is filling his cabinet with billionaires from Goldman Sachs.  And if they were all black billionaires from Goldman Sachs I'd be just as concerned.  He's draining the swamp right into his cabinet.

 

Ben Carson seems like a logical political pick.  Not qualified for the job...nope.  But when he dropped out he lent his support to Trump and he has been an unwavering friend to Trump since then.  Politics is obviously also about politics.

 

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Islam is cancer guys, Carson, Bannon, most of them would never get near any sort of position. Most haven't done work in the realm of politics ("inexperienced"). To talk of Trump bringing in the "swamp" is dishonest. By all means he say he drained it and filled it with worse if you like, I'd disagree, but its at least logical. 

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Ultimately this isn't just a problem with power positions that morons are demanding diversity on but the demographics as well. Such things however overpopulates the Earth faster which destroys the environment quicker and causes climate change faster which should all be concerns of leftists. 

At this point I think war may be the only answer, either that or wait for the space exploration age. 

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Carson and Bannon literally can't be part of the Swamp.  They are not.  Bannon isn't going to be in the cabinet though.

 

"Islam is cancer" guys part of the swamp that had basically made clear they would never work in it (again for one of them)? Bannon is involved in the matter.

Ultimately Trump has a collection of people. You got the guys who are outside the establishment like him, the so called absolute crazies, which can in no way be referred to as "the swamp" as they were never part of the establishment. You got Trump's rich friends who have definitely used lobbying before, but Trump himself has brazen stated he has used it to his advantage before so this does him no harm. They swamp? By Republican parameters which has Trump as "not swamp" then if Trump isn't then they aren't. Finally he has some Goldman Sachs guys because surprisingly everyone demands experience but when you bring in a guy with experience Trump still gets attacked. Not everyone who works at Goldman Sachs or is rich is evil, nor are they RUSSIANS or COMMUNISTS or whatever. 

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Trump wins. Dems protest. Colleges secure safe spaces.

Trump starts picking his cabinet. Dems complain. Media barks at how long it takes.

Trump picks his cabinet. Dems spout racism. Media complains about a lack of diversity.

 

I seriously don't give two shits.

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I really say let him have the cabinet he wants.  Rick Perry to be in charge of America's Nuclear Arsenal and Nuclear Power Plants....to suceed the last two guys who were....wait for it...nuclear physicists...

 

But as Obama says, elections have consequences.

 

As long as no Nazis make it to the cabinet, I'm content.

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Diversity for the sake of diversity is ridiculous. When it comes to government positions, only the most qualified people should be chosen based on experience and skills. Their gender, ethnicity, or sexual orientation is irrelevant. 

That rule should apply to EVERY job. the most qualified candidates get the jobs, the lazy slackers don't... nothing is a better motivator than hunger... cut off the welfare and use that money for education and skills training, so that the "minorities" have no one to blame but themselves if they lose jobs to more qualified people.

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That rule should apply to EVERY job. the most qualified candidates get the jobs, the lazy slackers don't... nothing is a better motivator than hunger... cut off the welfare and use that money for education and skills training, so that the "minorities" have no one to blame but themselves if they lose jobs to more qualified people.

 

While I appreciate the boost in education sentiment, I can't help but see a (more) racist tint in your spectacles. You assume that minorities are inherently unqualified because they have not been selected for the occupation. Couldn't it be that the employment of white male figures into positions of leadership also self-perpetuates the cycle, whether conscious or unconscious of their actions? That, due to the lack of diversity in the first place, white male figures tend to perceive other white male figures as more "qualified" due to their both physical and cultural similarities to each other?

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It's a useful mental exercise. Through the years, many thinkers have been fascinated by it. But I don't enjoy playing. It was a game that was born during a brutal age when life counted for little. Everyone believed that some people were worth more than others. Kings. Pawns. I don't think that anyone is worth more than anyone else. Chess is just a game. Real people are not pieces. You can't assign more value to some of them and not others. Not to me. Not to anyone. People are not a thing that you can sacrifice. The lesson is, if anyone who looks on to the world as if it was a game of chess, deserves to lose.

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The president-elect’s critics, Mr. Levell said, would not be satisfied regardless of how many black or Hispanic men and women were nominated for top jobs.

“If we had five black appointees, they’d be upset that we don’t have seven or nine or 10,†he said. “So I think, at the end of the day, it’s not a situation of trying to fulfill the media’s desire to have to fill these agencies with X amount of blacks, X amount of Hispanics. He’s truly staying on course to find those with the best ability who have an open mind and heart for all cultures that want to serve.â€

From the Washington Times

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