Globalists resist in Austria but are scattered in Italy

[Rozalia]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/04/far-right-party-concedes-defeat-in-austrian-presidential-election

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/dec/04/italian-referendum-and-austrian-presidential-election-live

 

In Austria they held on but only just. The good news (or bad depending on who you are) is that its expected that regardless of the loss here, the Freedom party is expected to likely be a strong challenger for getting control of the government. The new President has in the past said he would refuse to allow that but... we'll see on that.

In Italy however they lost and its likely an election is incoming very soon where the left, or "far left" as some might say is going to likely win. Hopefully they will.

 

In short both of these battles have not been decisive and we will see in the future which side can ultimately claim a decisive victory. What say you peeps?

[Aisha Greyjoy]

The Italian thing isn't "just" a globablist anti-globalist thing.  To change the powers of their government structure so much, to give so much power to the central government, it was a recipe for tyranny that a former fascist nation should remember.

 

Italy has some major structural problems in their economy that are largely caused by government, however.  The changes were "intended" to curb those, but obviously, government rarely uses its power as narrowly as the original "intent".

 

For the actual anti-globalist crowd in Italy, i'm sure watching Greece gave them a preview of what happens when you let the big banks decide the future of nations.  Minimal government services, 25% unemployment, total devastation of your nation.  All so the banks can get paid.  The sad thing is the "tyrannical reforms" they voted down had the best chance of "fixing" their "ailing economy" and preventing any sort of bank-takeover.

[Rozalia]

The Italian thing isn't "just" a globablist anti-globalist thing.  To change the powers of their government structure so much, to give so much power to the central government, it was a recipe for tyranny that a former fascist nation should remember.

 

Italy has some major structural problems in their economy that are largely caused by government, however.  The changes were "intended" to curb those, but obviously, government rarely uses its power as narrowly as the original "intent".

 

For the actual anti-globalist crowd in Italy, i'm sure watching Greece gave them a preview of what happens when you let the big banks decide the future of nations.  Minimal government services, 25% unemployment, total devastation of your nation.  All so the banks can get paid.  The sad thing is the "tyrannical reforms" they voted down had the best chance of "fixing" their "ailing economy" and preventing any sort of bank-takeover.

 

Well no, the losers here obviously wanted to frame it as just a constitutional matter but their opponents obviously didn't let them. The Five Star Movement want the Euro gone among a couple of other things and this has only helped them in that regard, puts more momentum behind them. Of course Le Pen may well kill the beast before they even get the chance to deal their blow.

 

Its true I suppose in how much trust can you have in the left when you look at Greece. I have confidence in the Five Star Movement not being like Greece's lot however. They will fight the EU if need be and they will find there are a lot more allies around for that these days.