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What is the alt-right?

 

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The alt-right is a segment of right-wing ideologies presented as an alternative to mainstream conservatism in the politics of the United States.[1] The alt-right has been described as a movement unified by support for Republican Presidential candidate Donald Trump,[2][3][4] as well as opposition to multiculturalism and immigration.[5]

There is no official ideology associated with the alt-right, but various sources have linked it to white nationalism,[6][7]white supremacism,[2][5][8]antisemitism,[2][5][9]right-wing populism,[6][10]nativism,[11] and the neoreactionary movement.[8][12]

The alt-right has been said to be a largely online movement and internet memes are widely used to advance or express their beliefs, often on websites such as 4chan; much of the coverage of the alt-right has focused on the memes it has produced.[2][8][9][13][14]

 

I do not normally initiate discussions with wiki quotes but I thought it was a good place to begin as an overview post.

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woops, I meant to include this in the first post:

 

http://time.com/4457110/internet-trolls/

 

 

But trolling has become the main tool of the alt-right, an Internet-grown reactionary movement that works for men’s rights and against immigration and may have used the computer from Weird Science to fabricate Donald Trump. Not only does Trump share their attitudes, but he’s got mad trolling skills: he doxxed Republican primary opponent Senator Lindsey Graham by giving out his cell-phone number on TV and indirectly got his Twitter followers to attack GOP political strategist Cheri Jacobus so severely that her lawyers sent him a cease-and-desist order.

The alt-right’s favorite insult is to call men who don’t hate feminism “cucks,†as in “cuckold.†Republicans who don’t like Trump are “cuckservatives.†Men who don’t see how feminists are secretly controlling them haven’t “taken the red pill,†a reference to the truth-revealing drug in The Matrix. They derisively call their adversaries “social-justice warriors†and believe that liberal interest groups purposely exploit their weakness to gain pity, which allows them to control the levers of power. Trolling is the alt-right’s version of political activism, and its ranks view any attempt to take it away as a denial of democracy.

 

 

I find it interesting that this site has attracted a decent chunk of actual alt-right adherents.  Usually they self-restrict to sites like the chans and reddit where there is "more" anonymity.  Here they are at least loosely tied to a game platform and character.  Maybe this is a holdover from the early days of P&W?  What do you all think?

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So why do you think a sizable chunk landed here?  This game seems outside their normal haunts.

 

I suppose you could say any political movement is a meme but that seems a bit disingenuous.

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I wouldn't say a lot of people are alt right here to be honest, probably Roz, maybe Odin. People want to create a fantasy world where their nation is ideal for their beliefs. They want to live in the alt right world. Alt right people love politics, even if they belittle it all the time. This game is literally "politics and war" - everything they want.

 

Alt right people are still people, they aren't restricted to 4chan or Twitter or whatever, they do whatever they want - it's the Internet.

 

I am not saying they should be restricted to anywhere just wondering why there is a sizable contingent here.  I think your theory that nations can be modded to matcher their ideology is an interesting one.

 

 

Power fantasy. Ever notice how almost no one in the roleplay section plays as a democracy, or if the do, it's their character at the head of a democracy.

 

Everyone wants to be Stalin, no one wants to be Ivan Meatshieldsky.

 

I do not venture there.  I will go check it out.

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Maybe this is a holdover from the early days of P&W? 

IDK what you are talking about. 

i. I'm the only Bloc player (that I know of) who has lasted the whole time. A few come over to troll every once in awhile, but it isn't for long. 

ii. Bloc was purely for trolling. They aren't actual nazis. 

iii. The game has grown so much that even if all of >BP stayed, we would be outnumbered. 

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IDK what you are talking about. 

i. I'm the only Bloc player (that I know of) who has lasted the whole time. A few come over to troll every once in awhile, but it isn't for long. 

ii. Bloc was purely for trolling. They aren't actual nazis. 

iii. The game has grown so much that even if all of >BP stayed, we would be outnumbered. 

 

I was not here for that history I only read of the "horror" =)

 

It was my theory and nothing more.

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The alt-right is a political trend caused by dissatisfaction. There's a lot of alt-right people that have thousands of followers, such as:

 

Ramzpaul (36,400+ subscribers) https://www.youtube.com/user/ramzpaul

Mister Metokur (83,400+ subscribers) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfYbb7nga6-icsFWWgS-kWw

Disdain for Plebs (Although the channel only has 3,600 subscribers, the Facebook page has over 200,000 likes): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChtjeSy7UXBYs6IcTy4b6bA

 

There's also a number of other figures I can confidently add in there, such as Lauren Southern (a woman) or Milo Yiannopoulos (who is gay).

 

The alt-right is a fairly large movement. Granted, it's entirely digital. However, the world is getting more digital, so I don't view it as a bad thing.

 

I somewhat consider myself alt-right, so if anybody has any questions, feel free to ask me anything.

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Alt-right can be used to label Conservatives, Libertarians, Socialists, Liberals, Fascists, and so forth. Some of them see being religious as important while others not so much. It can include those who despise the Jews and those who want to protect Israel at all costs (land of the Jews and all that). It can include someone who believes people need to "stand on their own two feet" and someone who believes the state should support people more. 

 

The common threads that tie them together would be rejecting globalism, multiculturalism, and mass immigration that much is certain. Another position that seems widespread is rejection of interventions around the globe as they see the dictators of said countries as more stable though if you want to be flowery then just like they believe about their nation, other nations should also be allowed to self determine without some reckless intervention hitting them. ISIS is the exception to this as folk blame America/West for bringing them to power so best to clean up that mess. Most politicians and media are seen as corrupt and traitorous you could say hence why there is a lot of attraction to strongmen who can impose their will (which they believe aligns enough with them on the main issues) on the corrupt politicians. 

 

As for the numbers I see nothing strange. Rejection of globalism, multiculturalism, and mass immigration are not exactly uncommon positions and that is pretty much all you need to be "Alt-right".

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Wow, based on all that I'd say you could pretty much be my very own political anti-Christ. My opinions are more or less the exact opposite of yours in regards to the subjects you mentioned. It all seems very purist to me, almost nostalgic. The past is over though, and the past was worse than now.

 

I have to say though, lol @ BLM growing more violent. That's hardly the case and frankly, I know that if my own race had been mercilessly oppressed by a systematic, racist government there's a good chance I would turn to violence as well. Fight fire with fire and all that. My ancestors bombed racist Germans in the 1940s, so it's not that much of a stretch to do the same towards racist Americans now. I'm surprised you haven't had a full blown revolution already, you sure could use one. I also think it's pretty !@#$ed up that you care so much more about people smashing up shops and objects in response to innocent people being murdered on a daily basis than you care about innocent people being murdered. Priorities man.

 

If Trump wins, I hope you guys go isolationist again (though I'm bound to be disappointed). The rest of us, we don't need that shit. You can !@#$ your own shit up, elect the most terrible Presidents you want but if you do, don't let your horrible decisions ruin the world for everyone else. Party poopers.

 

Edit: Terrorist attacks being a daily occurrence in Europe? Yeah that's not something that's happening. Media makes a big deal about the few attacks that do happen (most of which don't have very high body counts), sensationalism and all that, but they are far from a daily occurrence. I bet the total body count for every aggressive war the US has waged is many, many times higher than the body count of any terrorist organization.

 

Also, http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/04/opinion/trump-reflects-white-male-fragility.html?_r=0

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I wouldn't say a lot of people are alt right here to be honest, probably Roz, maybe Odin. People want to create a fantasy world where their nation is ideal for their beliefs. They want to live in the alt right world. Alt right people love politics, even if they belittle it all the time. This game is literally "politics and war" - everything they want.

 

Alt right people are still people, they aren't restricted to 4chan or Twitter or whatever, they do whatever they want - it's the Internet.

 

First time i heard of this term (alt-right). Never have been on /pol/, 4chan (the layout is confusing) and Twitter.

Every nation here is a fantasy world. No one seriously roleplays (for example) a Obama USA here >_>

 

Though irl it's no fantasy. The changes are coming, FPÖ in Austria has more then 50%, AfD in Germany 25% in the East. The Brexit has happened. Eastern EU blocks the crazy Brussel attempts to permanent install religious fanatics. Trump might win the US. Le Pen might win in France. 

 

 

Sure.  What are you dissatisfied with, mainly?

LOTS!

Some examples (all over the place):

- Gender propaganda in the Kindergartens, to teach under 6 year olds of gender diversity.

- Christopher streets day. Should be abolished. Nothing against homosexual people. But damn, on that festival, they look like crazy colourful chickens there. Why are they even doing this? :|   Only to annoy straight people.

- GER plans 3,5 billion € now (18.08.2016) for refugee education. At the same time we have no money for Teachers, Kindergartens, municipalities. So where's the priority? Not with the own people.

- We have social-democrats-conservative parties ruling for 70 years now. The poor are still poor, the rich are getting even richer. The poor-rich-divide at least couldn't be solved by those left parties. ( Please note: Left/Right in Germany isn't about socialism vs capitalism, it's about internationalism vs patriotism. All parties except the FDP have many socialist parts in their programms.)

- USA started the war vs Iraq, and fought it alone. Then the ISIS appeared in this now unstable region. And the refugees fled to Europe and we idiots took those desert-ers (hehe). Nothing against the US here, this was our insane decision. They're not refugees. Because refugees have to be persecuted by someone. They left on their own initiative. Could as well have stopped Assad or helped him, whatever, to stop what happens now in Aleppo.

- Every person who has died or got raped in Europe by refugees, had his fate delivered by the politicians who let them in. If they'd stopped them right at the beginning, they'd be still healthy.

- The Media is fully in the hands of the state. Every channel and every newspaper is saying the same shit. And their circulations are dropping rapidly. The people don't believe their crap anymore.

- People (Professors mainly) lose their jobs if they say things that don't suit the mainstream oppinion.

 

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"It's 2016"

"Muh oppression"

"Le trump XD"

 

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- We have social-democrats-conservative parties ruling for 70 years now. The poor are still poor, the rich are getting even richer. The poor-rich-divide at least couldn't be solved by those left parties. ( Please note: Left/Right in Germany isn't about socialism vs capitalism, it's about internationalism vs patriotism. All parties except the FDP have many socialist parts in their programms.)

Of course it's about capitalism. Capitalism is the reason why the poor are still poor and why the rich grow richer. Even without globalism, capitalism is a system of exploitation and oppression, as long as it is allowed free reign it will be unjust. You will never be able to fix that through a right-wing party, because they are the people who perpetuate and support it in one way or another. If your social democratic governments failed to curtail the negative aspects of capitalism, the solution is more radical, leftist policies to take control of and harness capitalism for the good of the nation, not right-wing populism. Those parties you're so fond of are saying the same things now that fascists, nationalists, nazis and other right-wing extremists said more than 70 years ago. Capitalists, wrongfully blaming foreign people for the dire state of the economy and society to distract people from where the blame should rightfully be placed, upon themselves. If we allow Europe to once more fall under the shadow of politics fueled by fear, prejudice and hatred, we deserve another world war to set us straight. We should have learned the lesson by now. We should know better than to fall for the same stupid tricks.

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I don't like the progressive trends that Europe and North America is going through. In Europe for example, raising alarms about the refugees brands you a racist. Here in America, I'm greatly dissatisfied with the political climate. I'm disgusted with the leftists, and I feel like the right, the Grand Old Party, isn't willing to stand against them in fear of losing their own power or going against their corrupt backroom deals. I also feel like that they're not as right as the Democrats are left, and I'm irritated by that.

 

I don't like how criticizing Black Lives Matter or the American black community in general will label you a racist. I don't like double standards such as criticizing Christians for refusing to bake a cake while turning a blind eyes to the dozens of terrorist attacks that are now almost an everyday occurrence in Europe (you barely heard about that nonsense two years ago).

 

I don't like it that male victims of rape or male victims of domestic abuse aren't taken seriously. I don't like how women almost have a complete free pass to accuse whomever of rape and not face consequence (although that seems to be shifting, thankfully).

 

I don't like how it's almost impossible to be racist against white people. I've seen so many videos and social media posts of blacks, Muslims, or latinos calling for the death of white people and nobody bats an eye. Of course, if a white person did the same, they'd have their reputation ruined and be harassed terribly. Not saying they wouldn't completely deserve it, of course, but the double standard makes me very sympathetic.

 

I also just don't like my generation. The obsession with entertainment without learning about the situations the world or their nation or community is in is crazy. Or, if it isn't that, the selfishness and entitlement. I also hate all the piercing, tattoos, and dyed hair. I also don't like how most of them can't think for themselves, and will only reiterate things they hear online. 

 

All of these things I don't like come together to anger me. I'm not the only one ticked off. However, not only are we angry, we also think that these trends will only lead to the fall or gradual worsening of our nations- which we love dearly.

 

Now, that all being said, I think things are improving. Last year, 2015, was a complete shitshow. However, this year, 2016, is much more promising. Brexit won, more and more people are getting tired of Black Live's Matter bullshit (and BLM are, consequently, becoming more violent), and the polls show that Austria's far-right candidate is ahead. I also believe Trump stands a good chance of winning in November, and I think that'll help things along as well.

I agree with almost everything you said (except for the first and last paragraph).

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You're talking about capitalism like its the worst thing to ever happen, yet it's the system that belongs to all the largest economic powerhouses in the world. There's a reason for that - it works. Capitalism encourages people to work hard, and trains them to complete difficult tasks. Leftist economic policies bail out people who can't work, or (the problem conservatives have) choose not to work. More radical economic policies - such as redistribution of wealth - encourages people not to work, and instead let other people work to fuel their lives.

 

Say what you will about fascists - their economic policy was close to flawless. Social policy, in retrospect, not so much. Free healthcare, and free education is what socialists are all about, and yet that's what fascists sought to atain. The government was partially responsible for citizens work, which meant people always had a job, whether it be in government (military, education etc), or in the private sector.

 

A big reason why fascists rose to power so fast was because of their free market capitalistic ideals. Low amounts of regulation and taxation, as well as limiting inflation meant the fascist market boomed, as people were more enticed to start business and supply people with jobs. It all comes full circle.

 

Oh, so you're not just a racist, you're also a lapdog of the capitalist exploiters that keep the working masses of the world in perpetual wage slavery. That's good to know. Do you fetch your wealthy masters' slippers and newspaper too or is that the sort of physical work you think black people are suited for?

 

Capitalism is one of the best things that has ever happened, in regards to growing economies and creating larger amounts of wealth, productive forces and so on. However, it is a fundamentally unjust and exploitative system. Capitalism is a system for capitalists, for wealthy capital owners to make a buck from everyone else's work. Capitalism is what lets company executives make many times over what their workers make even though the workers are who do all the work while the capital owner sits like a parasite at the top of the pyramid, feeding on the time and labor of their dutiful, distracted slaves. Capitalism encourages people to work, because people have no choice but to do so if they are to survive, because capitalists need workers to make them money. You might as well say slave owners encourage slaves to work, because that's what it is. I mean, you yourself mention other people working to fuel the lives of someone else. You realize that's a fundamental trait of capitalism?

 

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There you see how it works in a nutshell. In capitalism, the workers do the work, the business owner gathers the profits of their work, and decides how much the workers get from the work they did. Nine out of ten times, the business owner will give himself a lot more than he gives his workers, thus forcing them to stay working because they can never make enough to elevate their status, thus maintaining the system of exploitation that has been going on for decades. See, we don't need the business owner at the top, the workers are perfectly capable of organizing and running things by themselves, he's just a parasite. And capitalism is the parasite's system, their way to keep themselves, the richest of the rich, at the very top and to keep everyone else from getting there while having everyone else do their work for them. And when they start facing trouble, when people start fighting them and try to tear down their exploitation and oppression they start screaming "no, it's the Jews fault! It's the black people! The communists and hippies are ruining the country! It's all the immigrants fault! It's certainly not my fault that the economy is in such a poor state, never mind the fact that I outsourced my production, hide millions in tax havens and just gave myself a huge bonus even though I just laid off hundreds of workers! The economy is in such a poor state after all!" And you !@#$ let them trick you, so many people fall for it every time. If it hadn't been such a vile thing I'd say it's an amazing achievement to dupe so many people over and over.

 

The whole thing about leftist economic policies discouraging people from work is complete and utter bullshit that has been debunked over and over and over. I bet you could google it right now and you'd find dozens, if not hundreds of articles that debunk that propagandic nonsense. Redistribution of wealth, like taxes (which is redistribution of wealth you know) is a large part of the reason why you have a house to live in, why you have access to education, to healthcare, electricity, clean water and so many other essentials of life. Do you think the richest people in our societies have any interest whatsoever for paying for these things for other people than themselves? Do you think they would feel any need to contribute at all if the government does not impose redistribution on them? Historically, they didn't.

 

Free market capitalist ideas are what causes poverty, what causes exploitation. It's a terrible, terrible idea that will always benefit the very richest so much more than everyone else. Fascists did not gain power because of free market capitalist ideas, at least not with the masses. I imagine private enterprise, corporate executives, wealthy business owners and whatnot gave them plenty of support though, and when you have the backing of the richest people in the country it's easy to trick the common people into thinking that this or that race or this or that political organization is to blame for all the unfairness and poverty in the country, so that they can keep doing what actually causes that unfairness and poverty by distracting everyone from the actual truth

 

If you truly sympathize with fascists, the lessons of history are lost for you. If the same was true for everyone else, we'd all be !@#$ed. Fortunately, that's not the case.

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Of course it's about capitalism. Capitalism is the reason why the poor are still poor and why the rich grow richer. Even without globalism, capitalism is a system of exploitation and oppression, as long as it is allowed free reign it will be unjust. You will never be able to fix that through a right-wing party, because they are the people who perpetuate and support it in one way or another. If your social democratic governments failed to curtail the negative aspects of capitalism, the solution is more radical, leftist policies to take control of and harness capitalism for the good of the nation, not right-wing populism. Those parties you're so fond of are saying the same things now that fascists, nationalists, nazis and other right-wing extremists said more than 70 years ago. Capitalists, wrongfully blaming foreign people for the dire state of the economy and society to distract people from where the blame should rightfully be placed, upon themselves. If we allow Europe to once more fall under the shadow of politics fueled by fear, prejudice and hatred, we deserve another world war to set us straight. We should have learned the lesson by now. We should know better than to fall for the same stupid tricks.
 
I didn't say it's not about capitalism. I said in Germany all parties except the FDP have many socialist parts, though maybe them too, i didn't really care for them ever though. They're known as the lobbyist party. There is nothing like Libertarianism here so to say. You can basically vote for any party and always get your social security. What we need isn't a nazi party either. What we need is a change of the society. 
Germany is currently ruled by the thought "In doubt: left". And being left as in being socialist, to improve the living conditions, wages, possibilities of everyone, then i am being left as well (look at my nation page, that economic left part is not for jokes).
We need capitalists, but they and all top/good earners need to be taxed so, that the lowest earning citizens can live a life with dignity, and even can travel away in vacancies twice a year, etc. (wage subsidies!!!)
 
But currently being right here means instantly being a nazi, or everyone gets compared to Hitler + Caricature. The Nazi totally lost it's meaning. What was left in the past as written above has totally moved into pure social leftism.
The economic needs of the poor and workers class (wages, living conditions, work hours, working conditions) aren't important anymore. Nowadays leftism is all about gender equality (+ invention of new genders), refugee welcome, enhancing Globalization!!, etc. 
Even though everyone knows that globalization is only a tool for capitalists to easily move their industries to countries with cheap workers.
Left parties have shifted away from economic left to social left totally. Lobbyism and Marxism. Crazy, but that's how it is today. 
 
Even though we have for years either the socialists ruling directly, or as a junior partner,
- the wages didn't increase,
- the work hours stagnated or are even going to rise,
- 20/30 hours work got normal (for less loan of course),
- pensions get paid later and it's less then years ago,
- indefinite employment duration contracts are getting rarer
- part time employment is at a high
- more and more pressure at work, thanks to job cuts
 
My ideal country currently is btw Poland.
- Real catholic, not some suicide watch case.
- Patriots without being Nazis ("Whaaaat, how can that be? omg"). I compare them to a Bismarck-style rule.
- Gang symbol Graffiti free
- Beautiful landscape, and everything is very tidy.
- Rebuilding their cities historically, and don't destroy old building for new architecture
- social welfare state
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I didn't say it's not about capitalism. I said in Germany all parties except the FDP have many socialist parts, though maybe them too, i didn't really care for them ever though. They're known as the lobbyist party. There is nothing like Libertarianism here so to say. You can basically vote for any party and always get your social security. What we need isn't a nazi party either. What we need is a change of the society. 

Germany is currently ruled by the thought "In doubt: left". And being left as in being socialist, to improve the living conditions, wages, possibilities of everyone, then i am being left as well (look at my nation page, that economic left part is not for jokes).

We need capitalists, but they and all top/good earners need to be taxed so, that the lowest earning citizens can live a life with dignity, and even can travel away in vacancies twice a year, etc.

I won't argue against any of that.

 

But currently being right here means instantly being a nazi, or everyone gets compared to Hitler + Caricature. The Nazi totally lost it's meaning. What was left in the past as written above has totally moved into pure social leftism.

The economic needs of the poor and workers class (wages, living conditions, work hours, working conditions) aren't important anymore. Nowadays leftism is all about gender equality (+ invention of new genders), refugee welcome, enhancing Globalization!!, etc. 

Even though everyone knows that globalization is only a tool for capitalists to easily move their industries to countries with cheap workers.

Left parties have shifted away from economic left to social left totally. Lobbyism and Marxism. Crazy, but that's how it is today.

I don't know about that, you can be right-wing and not be a Nazi but a lot of the parties that have been gaining popularity in Europe lately are actually using a lot of the same rhetoric that Nazis did. Hostility towards immigrants is very common among them too, which is just unnecessary altogether, immigrants, like all people, are resources and resources should be cultivated and put to use. The country that takes in a lot of immigrants and manages to make them into productive citizens will be better off than the country that doesn't take in immigrants in the end. As for globalization, there's no turning back from that. It's like a boxing match against a tsunami, you just won't stand a chance. We have a global society, global communications, entertainment, economy, politics and there's no going back from that unless you get rid of all the technology that ties the world together, like the internet, phone lines, aircraft, ships, TV, newspapers, all of it. You can't fight globalization, but it doesn't have to be something you have to fight. Under the rule of capitalism, globalization will be globalized exploitation. But this doesn't have to be the case if the forces of globalization were harnessed and exploited for its benefits. I also don't think that leftism nowadays is all about the social aspects, at least that's not the impression I have. It seems like a misconception more than anything, leftist party programs will usually dedicate some of their attention towards economic aspects though how much parties are actually able to achieve in practice is not always as substantial. I think.. traditional leftist causes were things like worker's rights and such and nowadays a lot of people already have a lot of the benefits leftists traditionally set out to achieve (like minimum wages, maternity leave, etc) and because of that a lot of people are more concerned about social issues. People care about these things regardless of what the parties say and the parties are probably just trying to take advantage of it by maneuvering themselves as "socially conscious" to gain popularity among the people who care about that sort of thing, which is a lot of people now.

 

Even though we have for years either the socialists ruling directly, or as a junior partner,

- the wages didn't increase,

- the work hours stagnated or are even going to rise,

- 20/30 hours work got normal (for less loan of course),

- pensions get paid later and it's less then years ago,

- indefinite employment duration contracts are getting rarer

- part time employment is at a high

- more and more pressure at work, thanks to job cuts

 

My ideal country currently is btw Poland.

- Real catholic, not some suicide watch case.

- Patriots without being Nazis ("Whaaaat, how can that be? omg"). I compare them to a Bismarck-style rule.

- Gang symbol Graffiti free

- Beautiful landscape, and everything is very tidy.

- Rebuilding their cities historically, and don't destroy old building for new architecture

- social welfare state

 

I think you're mixing patriotism with nationalism. Patriotism isn't usually tied to Nazism, nationalism is. I like graffiti, as long as it's pretty. I also like modern architecture, though old buildings can be cool too so I'm impartial. I wouldn't live in Poland myself, they've taken a turn too far towards autocracy recently, plus so many of them come here, so how good could it possibly be? I'd make less money too. I'm good where I am, pretty much everything is awesome and it's all thanks to nationalized natural resources and social democratic policies.

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Big Brother is &#33;@#&#036;ing laying it with the anti-capitalist rhetoric!! Daaaamn. I agree with everything you say. The modern dissatisfaction are rooted in capitalism and the oppression of the working class. The only reason why capitalism is implemented in the biggest economies in the world is because capitalist states are known to invade socialist revolutions that have seized power or close them off to the rest of the world until they collapse. They do not give them a chance to be free, independent and work. So when you cut them off or invade them they need to resort to seizing absolute power so they can retain their independence and keep the revolution going until there is no longer a threat. Let them breathe. 

 

But that will never happen because the existence of a successful socialist state means the power of the wealthy ruling elite is taken away and put into the hands of the working class and that threatens the existence of other capitalist states. Bring democracy to the economy!

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I love how Big Brother talks about how great Communism is yet accepts the thing (globalism) that renders Communism impossible. Yes immigrants are great additions to countries, when their numbers are controlled and Nationalism rules the day. Globalism has no interest in controlled numbers as mass numbers are more useful to their system and as for integrating them bah who needs that, they can all form their own little nations separate from the collective, not join the collective, and then grow bigger and bigger through more reckless immigration and breeding. Guess what, when people both in the immigrant communities and outside it are more focused on hating each other they tend to not have time for Communism (keeping people divided is something the globalists need so they aren't overthrown). It's hilarious that the globalists have actually managed to get Communists & Anarchists, groups who should utterly despise them to defend them and their reckless policies so kudos to them for pulling that trick. 

 

The rich as a whole are not to blame for such things, the system is merely corrupt to the bone so if you're rich you either play ball or you likely won't stay rich for very long. The exist in a system that makes outsourcing and paying people "slave wages" good business, the acceptable and supposedly correct thing to do (we're in a global world they are told). To fix that you don't need to purge all the rich people, you merely need to make it so them doing the correct things is good business. For that you need a strong government that doesn't bend the knee to the special interests, the donors, the multinationals, so forth.

 

Edit: Oh and BLM is a disgrace who has been getting more violent yes though they were hardly angels to begin with. They riot constantly seemingly every time some thug gets shot (unless it's you know, by another thug because thats dandy), and no I'm not saying all black people are thugs as I know some guy will get triggered otherwise and play the white knight. When I first heard of the organisation I was honestly intrigued on how positive it could be... then I saw the riots...then I saw the "innocent good boys" they and the media kept pushing were all victims of the evil white men and if they're Latino then meh close enough, and if they're Asian... well he's a police officer so he was trying to impress all the racist white cops clearly (same if he's black, Uncle Tom and all that). No surprise I quickly lost time for their ridiculous nonsense. 

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I could probably be considered "alt-right". Never used 4chan, only been on reddit for gaming.

 

Alt-right exists in direct response to the regressive left. 

 

Not every "alt-right" adherent is a edgy memelord troll either. That sounds a lot like what christians like to do when they want to invalidate the arguments and beliefs of atheists, "oh hes just an edgy neckbeard fedora wearer".

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Power fantasy. Ever notice how almost no one in the roleplay section plays as a democracy, or if the do, it's their character at the head of a democracy.

Everyone wants to be Stalin, no one wants to be Ivan Meatshieldsky.

You make a very good point, although you have to remember that every player in this game is the leader of a nation. Unless the mechanics change to where a player can be another member of his nation's government (foreign minister, for example), you will not be seeing much variety in the role-play styles.

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