Peacity Peace Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Lol, I do that every weekend. So, what do you find horrid about life? The fact that while everyone is doing different things, we're all really doing the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoS Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Who is everyone? Who is we? And, what is the same thing? How does that relate to what's necessary in the struggle for life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadir Aminu Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 !@#$. I could totally write an essay and rant about this.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekejen Luish Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 1 Quote This is very small Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacity Peace Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Who is everyone? Who is we? And, what is the same thing? How does that relate to what's necessary in the struggle for life? Everything is what you want it to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekejen Luish Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Stop derailing this thread by being hippies. Quote This is very small Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacity Peace Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Stop derailing this thread by being hippies. Stop derailing this derailing by not being a hippie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapsie Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I will keep this short. Constantly, I see small things being done that can be seen as evil in the big picture. Example 1: If I ask almost anyone, I point out a bug or a bee on the ground; they will most likely step on it and kill it. Why? No one knows, what is the reason for killing a small creature for no reason? Example 2: A car is left on the street for a week. It is ok for a little while, but one day it is beat up and slashed. The reason? Oh it's kids being kids right? They say kids are the most pure beings out there, with little knowledge of the world and only real instincts to act on. Example 3: Developed Nations citizens using products from undeveloped nations while fully knowing where it came from, and what conditions it was made in. You support what is essentially slavery for your own benefit and find any way to rationalize it. You don't see it, you don't care. (I am guilty of this too, believe me). I could go on, but I want to see what you all think. Also here is my philosophical argument guide Quote We have seized the means of production. Though union, and self-governance, we have organized between all peoples of the land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoS Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1. There are cultures that would be appalled by needlessly killing even a bug. But, to most cultures bugs are hated and not afforded the same treatment as furry animals. It's trained behavior. 2. Teenagers are !@#$. 3. All animals have territory and will take from others. Greed and wanting everything that we don't need is the modern, global problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapsie Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1. There are cultures that would be appalled by needlessly killing even a bug. But, to most cultures bugs are hated and not afforded the same treatment as furry animals. It's trained behavior. 2. Teenagers are !@#$. 3. All animals have territory and will take from others. Greed and wanting everything that we don't need is the modern, global problem. Good points. Though non arguments, I see what you mean and the rhetoric behind it. 3. All animals have territory and will take from others. Greed and wanting everything that we don't need is the modern, global problem. Almost proves that innate evil in us. If greed is not evil, what is it? What is Greed? What is evil? Man... a person working on a minor in philosophy should not be here haha. Quote We have seized the means of production. Though union, and self-governance, we have organized between all peoples of the land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoS Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Well then you'd be familiar with "it's best to not be born at all" - Chiron Greed is a sickness and misconceptions. Evil is the same, I believe. So it is a transgressions, not a sin. The difference being ignorance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacity Peace Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Example 1: If I ask almost anyone, I point out a bug or a bee on the ground; they will most likely step on it and kill it. Why? No one knows, what is the reason for killing a small creature for no reason? For things to be important, some things have to be unimportant. If everything was important, nothing would be important. Therefore, in a way, killing that small creature is what gives you the ability to love things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoS Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 It's not that a bug is any more or less important than anything else. Everything is equally important, in the existential sense. So, that line of thought would be incorrect. The lion must eat to live and the gazelle must not be eaten to live. Each are equally important. There's nothing evil in survival. Most animals must cause another pain in order to survive. Even the gazelle not being eaten causes the lion pain. But, the human mind has spawned every imaginable idea; politics, agriculture, economics, torture, terrorism, BDSM, railguns. And, those ideas have an effect on individual and collective minds. We accept shit as gospel. We get fanatical over meaningless shit. We place undue importance in unimportant things. We inflict pain for reasons that are stupid, ignorant. Is that evil? No, it's just a stupid animal with just enough brains to be stupider than a beast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyre Posted May 26, 2016 Author Share Posted May 26, 2016 To sum it all up, everyone believes humanity sucks but no one can explain what evilness truly is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Jerry Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Yes, humanity is inherently bad...........which means we should be spanked.......and spanked hard.......starting with me first!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Todd Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 First you must view this question as a branch off of another question. What is morality to us might not be the true state of being. An example would be that a Vegetarian (evil beings) would view a Human killing and/or eating an animal as evil, but I view it as one animal eating another (circle of life *lion king music starts*). Comparatively to the universe we are but a mere speck, and our actions only effect our ecosystem (which is one of the Quintilian planets in our solar system). Are we greedy, yes. Are we Wrathful, some times. Do we seemingly destroy things on our world, all the time. But is bacteria or viral infections evil? Or are they just living out their purpose. People will always say people are evil. Labels are just that, labels. And again, Morality is a matter of perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Christ Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Simple answer: If humans were innately shitty, we would've failed as a species. Charles Darwin himself said that altruism, self-sacrifice, and cooperation are the hallmarks of natural selection. If we were shitbags to each other, our friends, our family — we would've died in the cold long ago. Quote “Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. They were haughty and did an abomination before me. So I removed them, when I saw it.†Ezekiel 16:49-50 ☠Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchy Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Is humanity innately bad? No. Are we all selfish hypocrites who only bring destruction in our wake? Selfish, Yes. Does everyone have the potential to commit the most immoral of acts? Yes Does humanity deserve pain, suffering, war, and punishment? No. If a victim of a crime is in a different situation, can they be a perpetrator of a crime and hurt someone else (e.g. Rwanda where the Tutsi began to get revenge on the Hutus by committing some atrocities like the Hutus and had done onto them)? Well you just listed an example sooo.... yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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