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And yet perfectly reasonable. A little humiliation, they get out of a protracted conflict that they know they cannot win nor have the ability to win and now they get to go on their merry way.

I love it. Fraggle's the best (worst) nation in this game. Hahahhahaha

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

They put their entire alliance into vacation mode and have threatened to come out of vacation mode when we least expect it (or at a time that we are unable to defend against it).

I'm all about the irony I guess. I mean, I'm not exactly shaking over here. It seems a little bit of a backwards plan to me is all and a little bit on the cowardly side. Why not simply agree to peace, build up, then go in on us in a few weeks. We've heard all about the vaulted fortunes of SA, so I'd imagine that would have been an easy thing to do. TEst has always been out there and we don't typically hide our intentions other than standard OpSec type stuff. Assuming the work around to reset it to 14 days is true and @Alex doesn't fix this loophole, then I guess we'll have to check back in with the SA folks every 10 days and see what happens.

It is kinda sad that this is what it came to. I don't think I've ever met a sadder group of sore losers in this game (and man, there are some angry people here when it comes to burning pixels). Going into VM to, at some point in the future to hopefully attack us when we're weakened or caught off guard by an enemy we can't effectively track (yes, there are ways, I know). I mean, good game on this I guess. Coulda all been over a while ago and we'd have had no hard feelings about it. My only hope at this point is that you do come out of VM, rejoin the game and then we can see if you all have the strength to muster an actual fight. My guess is that you won't based upon past boasts and follow through, but who knows.

And thus they are gone. Not with a bang, but a whimper.

RIP SA. Also, can someone please fix the calculations here! It's amazing!

Word up home slice. Like I've said, just disappointed in their rhetoric vs reality.

I'll poke a little, mostly because the whole point of this thread was that there was going to be mutually assured destruction... Ah yes, grand delusions rear their ugly head once again. Hitting them over and over would be an attack them once, then let them rebuild and then do it again and again for lulz (ie: GPA style). That's hardly the case here. One hit in several years is hardly the case. If we're going down that road then all of orbis is out to get one another...... Citation needed. If the statement is that we're going specifically after Alpha people, I had no idea who anyone was in SA. I assumed they were simply a bunch of pixel huggers who manipulated the markets. That aside, if we're putting all alliances that have ever taken former Alpha members in off limits, then we all might as well as go the way of SA and go into VM as there wouldn't be any point to playing. Oh well, so sad that you have to make this about you rather than the fact that SA isn't holding up their end of the bargin here. We were promised destruction and SA has failed to deliver. 0/7 for my rating.

I mean, we offered peace for the conclusion of round 1 (ie: a one and done war). It was thrown back in our face with a "if you don't peace now we'll rain destruction down on you for 8 or more rounds" (I believe i paraphrased but it's pretty close). So far only sunshine here. I like how the immediate conclusion of a lot of people here is that we're slinging mud when we have been nothing but cordial (at least until we had to respond to amusing threats). Guess it shows again people not investigating the whole of a situation and simply believing what they want rather than what the facts actually are. We didn't even ask them to change their flag or humiliate themselves. Just a handshake of "ok, we're done, good war".

It is a highly effective weapon for pixel huggers. SA must have initiated a technology transfer through all of their resources they have at their disposal.

We should note that both Loxy and Dutch Company have also both deployed the "Pixel Hugger" device at their nations. At this point, nearly 25% of SA's membership is hiding in VM. So much for all of the talk.

I'll be the first to admit that TEst screwed the pooch on the spy war at the front. But, given that you had the advantage (as you rightly declared) with having so many spies, you should have pressed that one front of the war you hadn't lost and brought down a bunch of hurt on tanks. My guess is you actually couldn't muster enough activity to do so, despite your alliance's repeated claims to the contrary. I look forward to hearing the reasons for everything abandoning the effort, mostly because it will likely you all blaming other people for your failures. Suppose all you want about us bringing in people, but It literally took 2 people to eliminate what remained of your spies. We don't have to bring in outside resources to do our dirty work. The fact you had to rely on AIM for your spy ops says more about you than it does about us. All I know is that I came back from real vacation (indeed before my nation had even gotten out of VM), organized what remained of our spy forces and within the course of 2 days, we had essentially disabled what remained of your spy network. The only two holdouts were Brasilia and yourself, which was entirely because both of you had such low scores that no one could reach down to you, even with decomming large portions of their military. As soon as I came out of VM on Tuesday, I corrected that problem by whacking you two for 14 and 16 spies respectively. Another member of TEst then whacked you (Kingdom) for an additional 21 spies a short time later and then we finished off Brasilia a day later (or maybe it was a few hours, I'm honestly too bored to go back and look). Regarding you taking out one member in particular (Pre), well, congratulations. It doesn't actually take a lot of skill to disable one person in this game. You can do it both militarily and by spying with ease. Congratulations, you can muster sufficient activity to do a total of 4-6 spy attacks. I'm sure that's what sent 2 of your members fleeing to VM. I can't speak to your first off topic remark because, well, to me it sounds like rambling. However, regarding the economic stuff, I'm pretty sure that TEst generates roughly the same on a per capita basis as you all. I did a rough, back of the envelope calculation based on my nation (one of our small nations) and we're averaging 7B/month. I couldn't tell you resource wise what we do, but that's more because we don't actually run taxes over here and, well, I'm too lazy to go around surveying 23 people. Suffice it to say, your 4.4B in cash is ENTIRELY AVERAGE. I'd even go so far as to say it is BELOW average given the number of whales you had at stupid levels of infra. The fact that you have to brag about your economic success, something that requires exceptionally low skill, again says more about your alliance than ours. It's too bad that MENSA went the way of the dinosaur. They would have been mowing the lawn (as they liked to call it) over and over with you guys. I get the economics portion of the game, but man, it's a sad day when your claim to fame is "HEY GUYS, WE CAN GET ROLLED OVER AND OVER AND HAVE TONS OF CASH TO REBUILD WITH!". Fair enough on "biding your time". Given that we've offered peace and it's been turned down multiple times with the threat of "burning TEst to the ground", we don't really care. 2 of your people went into VM already and likely more will soon. Not really. If I had gone into VM to AVOID a war (like 2 of your members) rather than actually going on VM because I was, ya know, on vacation, then the phrase would be apt. But I'm guessing you're too busy gnashing your teeth to think clearly about that. Then again, what do I know. I'm the clearly the pixel hugger in this conversation.

Totally get what you're saying and it wasn't meant as a critique. I guess I'm just looking at it and they're not doing what they said they were going to do and their activity (as far as I can tell) is just as bad as it was prior to the start. I can't check their discord server because the link in the game is broken, so I honestly can't tell if they hang out online somewhere plotting our demise. I think that they could do some serious damage, but that would require a concerted effort and activity level so far not seen on their part. Ah well, whatcha gonna do? Guess all I can say is good luck to them.