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Proof right here folks. Rather than call the collective mothers of House Stark fat and ugly, here we have a member of Lordaeron praising them and calling them friends. What more proof do you need that this split is surely fake and part of a wider conspiracy.

I'm going to spell it right even if they can't.

Are you daft Thalmor? Clearly this is a fake downgrade to trick their enemies into thinking they are split apart. Trust me, if KT hit Lordran tomorrow, House Stark would jump you. You should try it.

I just read your threads in their entirety. You are literally so far from qualified in handling this undertaking that it would take me an hour to type up a step by step guide as to why you can't do this. I would tell you to feel shame but if you could we wouldn't be here. I implore you not to make another thread, lest lives start being lost. Vanek and Memph belong on that list tho.

What meme? This is serious business. The people are being lied to.

And look at this, an IQ member coming out of the woodwork to claim the split is indeed real. But he doesn't fool us, this is clearly a conspiracy and nothing he can say will convince us otherwise.

!@#&#038 "@#&#039 #@#&#040 $@#&#041 %@#&#042 !@#$ this game

The issue with your argument is that there is plenty of room for leaders to move up if they are willing and capable. The reality is the vast majority of new players in game are not interested in pursuing leadership, and the ones that are lack the patience or willpower to succeed long term. Also micros are not good for the game. Micros have a long history of failure, and the games mechanics are stacked against them. The reality is the pathway to forming a successful alliance starts by joining a successful alliance first, learning the ropes, humbling yourself to people with experience and taking their advice, making friends and connections, and then striking out on your own, preferably with those friends in tow. Starting an alliance day one or month one will likely end in failure and is not a net plus for the game at all. Plenty of alliances do this. The vast majority of top AA's have quite a fairly large amount of government turnover. Same with leadership. TKR recently changed leadership, Rose changed leadership twice last year, BK changed leadership, Zodiac has changed hands a few times i believe, KT changed leadership. People who want to move up need to proactively try to. If you sit on your ass expecting someone to approach you with a job, you'll never get shit. If you expect to be leader of a top AA in 3 months then you have to measure you expectations a bit more realistically. Lol, this argument has been made 100 times before. Most of the alliances in the "coalitions" aren't pixel huggers, at least not in the leadership. Its the people outside of them sitting on the fence who tend to be the pixel huggers. That or the alliances who sit in protectorate status for over a year. Unfortunately most of these arguments have been made before and they don't change anything. If you want this to work, lead by example. Join a successful alliance, learn the ins and outs of government and leadership, move up the ranks and take a gov position. or break out on your own and create something with the knowledge you've attained. The reality is the only thing stopping most players from achieving things in this game is either laziness or incompetence. If your alliance has no upward mobility, leave it. If your alliance is ill-equipped to teach you what you need to learn to improve and succeed, go elsewhere. If you feel you deserve a shot, don't sit around and wait for it to be handed to you, work for it and then take it.

I'm going to bring you along, String, but it ain't going to be an overnight thing. We spend this year dealing with the city, the next doing business with the state. However, year three, then we go for the gold. Then we go federal. Then we see the man with his hand on the faucet. You still don’t get it, do you? Huh? This ain’t about your money, bruh. Ya boy gave you up. That’s right. And we ain’t have to torture his ass, neither! Amazing. Crime is down and no one wants to take any credit. What is wrong with this picture? Rat shot. What you need to be concerned about is what’s seated in the chamber now: a copper-jacketed, hollow point 120-grain hot street load of my own creation. So you need to think for just a moment and ask yourself: what do I have to do before this man raise up his gun again?

I, for one, think that the split isn't real because if they actually wanted to hurt each other they would have upgraded to an MDAP and hit an alliance they knew was a losing war.

Okay, I'm going to set aside the mantle of troll for a sec here. Durmij is honestly right, you aren't qualified to attempt a thread like this. You lack the necessary respect from the forum users to have this treated in a serious manner. And the reverse is also true, you as a new poster came in here and tried to tell us who the most important people are. Then when called out on it you backpedaled to this. Which honestly comes across as rather condescending. You then further dug this hole by saying in your thread that you would give less weight to the picks of people that down voted you, which basically tossed out what little credibility you had left. While I appreciate that you trying to be active and contribute to the community, you've bitten off far more then you can handle and its going to end badly if you keep trying to force this to work. You should just let these threads die, and try to re-ingratiate yourself with the community by just commenting in other threads, etc.

Haha, !@#$ing @Sketchy.

I can neither confirm or deny this split is real

Cleansing nuclear fire can be an effective (if expensive) exfoliant. Let's see here: 280 nuclear missiles X 35,000ish or so....equals...the hypotenuse of the tangent (squared of course) divided by 14

I can understand why it happened. Although the FA directions of both alliances are now night and day, they don't want to completely burn that bridge for old time's sake (rather or not that's for actual relations or just for face is a different story).

It's a downgrade.

Technically they're just altering an existing treaty, not adding a new one. The amount of treaties hasn't changed.

Why would we want a war now to interfere in our nation building, collecting taxes, flag-making, background changing game?

IQ seems to only be comfortable when there’s an NAP in effect - otherwise the rest of the game is obviously out to get them.

>NAP Alliances still take these seriously? Even when there's pretty much a 0.1% chance of it being necessary?

I guess Beauty and the beast were not ment for each other after all. We have had a great time working with Hs and are glad we could meet a middle ground and stay pals.

Look at what you did Roq, you broke Partisan.

You know whats a better idea instead of top 10 most influential? And run! Delete your post and run far far away before IQ comes bombing the polls, rigging the election, and kidnapping your children. RUN. RUN BEFORE ROQ GETS HERE!

JODO SMELLS I expect war within 48 hours.

Adding tax brackets in no way redeemed you for the screwing you gave low and mid tier nations with your resource and commerce changes.

Since there are already policies that reduce city, project, and infra costs by 5%, could there be a policy that reduces land costs by 5%? (It's about 4 AM here though, so feel free to point out anything stupidly obvious I've missed)

Ok. This isn't my idea I'm just suggesting it. One can send a peace offer for a conflict and it can contain if you send or receive, money or resources. Such as paying for peace. I feel lots of players would like this.

Add top infra by city and overall top infra. We need to know at the click of a button. This is purely for research purposes. ;^)

The Piggy Institute of Science will support the ayyliens in the quest to research infrastructure and whales. This research will help us understand more about whales and their behaviors. In addition, research on infrastructure can help us poor poor pirates learn how to properly build and prosper into a nation of lard and greatness. The Galactic Dominion of Piglantia would like to provide 750 tons of aluminum, 500 galleons of gas, 250 tons of freshly extracted uranium, and 1.75 million dollars in order to aid and accelerate the research of whales. In addition, the institute sends these top sekrit highly classified files to Shifty Stranger in hopes that we would be able to be of assistance.

I don't really get the top part; I mean technically all the other policies make the game "easier". I just think there's a point where investing in infra doesn't make that much sense anymore and something like this would at least give players another option than whaling up. And land does get scale pretty quickly imo. Believe it or not, there are times when people don't want to build cities or infra and would rather build land.

Does this really add anything new or interesting to the game? Or is it just another way to min-max and make the game easier? IMO Land isn't that expensive as-is.

All in good time. Beware of the Dutch.

"Our top tier is intact, we win" "Our low tier is intact, we win" 100% accurate assesment of both sides rn tbh fam.

I'll save you the time and energy Kastor of posting a DoW, since your probably planning your next failed war. The Commonwealth recognizes hostilities with Lord-a-aron. Good luck out there folks!

Shit has me dying

This topic will server as a collection of relevant formulas for how a city's population is calculated. Base Population Infrastructure * 100 Base Population Density Base Population / (Land + 0.001) Disease Rate *between 0% and 100% ((( 0.01 * Base Population Density^2 ) -25 ) / 100 ) + (Base Population / 100000) - (Hospital Disease) + (Pollution Index * 0.05) Commerce Rate *between 0% and 100%, unless ITC project, then max is 115% (Supermarkets * 4) + (Banks * 7) + (Malls * 12) + (Stadiums * 18) + (Subways * 7) Minimum Wage 725 / (National Tax Rate * 1000) Average Income ((Commerce / 50) * Minimum Wage) + Minimum Wage Crime Rate *between 0% and 100% (((( 103 - Commerce )^2 ) + Base Population ) / 111111 ) - (Police Stations * 2.5) People Killed by Disease (Disease Rate / 10) * (Base Population / 10) People Killed by Crime *cannot go below 0 (( Crime Rate / 10 ) * Base Population ) - 25 Population MAX(10, (Base Population - People Killed by Disease - People Killed by Crime) * (1 + (City Days Old / 3000)))

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House Stark and Lordran Relations On January 6th, 2018 House Stark and Lordran decided we will be moving from an ODoAP to an NAP intiating in 72 hours. Have a good 2018 everyone. Three Eyed Revan, Ballard (HS)

Still pointless and unnecessary. Having a formal NAP is useless because there's basically been a global NAP since the end of last war.

Thorin Oakenshield Shifty Stranger

Thorin for sure.

It's Thorin Thorin is awesome.

Thorin

pls dont upvote this comment

-20 dynamic score. The PR fallout would be unimaginable for IQ and HS, KT would get an amazing gift. Why would HS and IQ go through the trouble of canceling a treaty and being put in this vulnerable position when they could have rolled KT beforehand at any point. HS or IQ in all possible situations do not achieve a good outcome for the game by moving first, KT has the game on lock.

Yay, more useless treaties! Totally what the game needs at this point.